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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 7 Num. 42

("Quid coniuratio est?")


Interview with Sherman H. Skolnick, March 8, 1996


Now the others that have commented about the Oklahoma bombing, for example that top FBI official [Ted Gunderson] and that retired top Brigadier General [Partin], they, apparently, somewhere in their careers, signed national security oaths. I never did. I never was in such a position, therefore I'm not obligated to stay shut about this. Maybe they are. They've commented that the government's version of the bombing is not accurate.

That's much of the secret, that there is this radioactive illness now. It's just, it didn't get in front of the public.

In your latest story, "The Oklahoma Bombings and the Radioactive Cover-Up", you mention people that are dragging themselves to work. And it sounds like it's really a sad story.

It is; it's terrible. I promised myself I will risk my neck in every way to see what can be done for those people. All the details are not known. People that know about it talk in whispers. People are afraid to death, because this is really a... When you're talkin' about the radioactivity and stuff like that you can get right into the national security end of it. And there's not too many people that want to talk. They talk to you with the promise that you'll never mention their name -- and nobody's gonna get their name out of me. I don't care how much people heckle me. I know what the circumstances are and I am going to bring it before the public as best I can.

When you were first developing this story and I talked with you, it was like you had just talked with some of these people...

I was greatly misunderstood, because the problem is technical. The story about the radiation started out as a 5-minute recorded commentary [(312) 731-1100]. And in a 5-minute recorded commentary you cannot always make it so plain that you won't be misunderstood. Some people got the idea that I was talking about a nuclear bomb. But this was some radioactive material that in some way was "piggy-backed" onto conventional weapons the way some terrorists in recent times have tried to do in other countries. (They tried, but it was stopped by the French secret police. Terrorists tried to do it in Paris.)

But here, I'm not saying that terrorists did the thing in Oklahoma. In fact, I'm inclined to believe that there was government complicity. But I'd rather focus in on the fact that, howsoever the bombing occurred in Oklahoma -- bombings, in the plural -- that the people that were on a mission of mercy are suffering extreme health problems. And I believe, from the details, they're dying from radioactive poisoning, exposure.

So far I haven't got much feedback. One Conspiracy Nation (CN) reader writes:

How about if Skolnick provides a list of all these "deathly ill" people dying of radiation poisoning? Seems to me there would be no way to cover this up in this day and age.

Well, I promised these people their names wouldn't come before the public, because some of them continue to drag themselves to work. And they may or may not be entirely plugged into -- what is the word? "Current reality" or something? In other words, they think they can beat it if they can just keep going.

The others, that are at home, sick, figure that if they "run their mouth" they won't get any medical treatment at all. They're being called "malingerers" now. And if they "ran their mouth"...

In other words, it's the same problem with the ex-GIs that came back from the Gulf War.

Same with Agent Orange, too.

Right. They ran substantial risk. If there was an honest press, across the board, in the United States -- yes, we'd give out the whole list and demand that these people get proper treatment. But they run substantial risk. Some of them are still working. They hope to continue working although they have to drag themselves in to work.

I promised not to use their names. So if somebody comes along and says, "Well, Skolnick, if you don't supply the names then we're gonna call you a liar," I don't care. I'm prepared to take all the heat. I know what this is about. I don't care how I am heckled, I am gonna be in the forefront of trying to get some remedy for these people -- irrespective of whether I am disbelieved in the beginning.

It's kind of like Agent Orange, too. If you remember, during the Viet Nam War and thereafter, for years they were saying, "No, no. No 'Agent Orange.'"

Right. For having miscarriages, of their wives, or whatever the poisoning was, by some method spread to newborn children, it spread to other children in the house. It's like the whole household was down sick and the Veterans Administration says, "Go back to work. You're just a 'goldbrick'. You're a 'malingerer.'"

Another CN reader writes, "What a great smorgasbord: Skolnick, AIDS, and now Spotlight! Tasty!! (and mentally nutritious, too) That Media Bypass stuff has blown us away!"

Well I've gotten comments from militia and other people. (I'm not a member of any militia nor necessarily a supporter. I try to stay within my role as a commentator and journalist.)

But I intend to lead a campaign to help these people that tried to rescue other people in Oklahoma and are now, apparently, dying from radiation exposure. And the government is prepared to deny it for some years to come. And as the time passes, these people (I hate to predict, but), these people, by the time the government gets around to telling the truth, will be dead.

Have I missed anything? Is there anything else that you wanted to add?

No, but I think the Gulf War thing and now this tends to show that the government lies.

[laughs] Yeah. That's the understatement of the day. They're always lyin'. The amazing thing is that people still will believe what they say.

If some of the victims want, themselves, to go public with the thing, that's their choice. But I promised silence, as far as their names. I won't give out their names.

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Mr. Skolnick is founder/chairman, since 1963, of the public interest reform group, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, investigating and researching judicial bribery and political murders. Since 1971, he has been editor of a 5-minute recorded phone commentary, HOTLINE NEWS, (312) 731-1100, a regular phone call, on 24 hours per day, changed several times per week. Since 1991, he has been a regular panelist, now the moderator, of a weekly public access one-hour Cable TV Show, "Broadsides", available to some 400,000 households. His comments appear on several news groups on Internet and on the World Wide Web. Office, 8 a.m. to midnight, 7 days/week: (312) 375-5741. Call before sending fax. 9800 S. Oglesby Ave., Chicago, IL 60617-4870.

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