("Quid coniuratio est?")
I spoke by phone with Jimmy Rothstein, long-time detective (now retired) with the NYPD Vice Squad.
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JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
In the Huey Mulligan thing, he was a notorious gangster. And this
guy was an assistant District Attorney. And what he did was take
the minutes from the Huey Mulligan grand jury and bring it to the
police department. Which is illegal. And at that time they
stopped us. (They got to him.)
But we were well on our way. We were just grabbing everybody: we had subpoena power and we had a special committee set up. And then after that...
And at that time was when I locked up Sturgis. And that was the end of my career. I mean, they had hinted everything they could to me. Plus, the fact that, at one point, just before I retired, the Monsignor Dunn, who was the chaplain for the police department, told me that if I would deliver Bruce Ritter I would never have to work again. You know. I'd be promoted and all that sh**. And I told him to "go to Hell" (and that was... in much stronger words than that).
CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right, when you say "when you would deliver Bruce Ritter":
Who exactly is Bruce Ritter?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Father Bruce Ritter, he's the man at Covenant House. He ended up,
[they] accused him of messing with kids. Because Bruce Ritter had
de-briefed all these kids and had enough information to break all
these big shots. That's why they had to get rid of him.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
So they, just basically they accused Ritter of these...
involvements?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah. And that was bullsh**. And I know that for a fact that it
was bullsh**. And the people that did the investigation were all
part of the problem. (I'd like to explain the whole thing someday
to you, but -- that would take a whole day, in explaining just
that.)
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Many of my readers are interested in this sort of thing. Because
what I cover... I call it "Conspiracy Nation", but it's not...
it's more... "Corruption Nation" would probably be a better word
for it.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
You're in Chicago, you said?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Champaign.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Oh.
I'll tell you what: you're not too far from Marion, Illinois there. And this Russell Herman business all comes out of Marion, Illinois.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
There's a prison there. Is there any connection with the prison?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
No, no.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
It just happened to occur there.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
This is... I gotta find out the truck stop. I drive truck once in
a while myself, when I got nothin' else to do. And I'm trying to
find out [at] what truck stop this meeting took place. Because
they describe a black tractor trailer that was loaded with
equipment. And when they met with Bush and Foster (it was a
couple of meetings), that black tractor trailer was there.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
So this was a big meeting!?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Oh yeah. Yeah.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Before, I had somehow got the idea that it was just [Vince]
Foster and this Herman had just met.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
No, there was a couple of different meetings.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
And so... You say Bush was there too?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
And they had a big tractor trailer that was communications, or...
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah, yeah.
She describes stuff. This woman [Mrs. Herman], they call her "grandma". She describes the thing.
I'm gonna go into it more with her one of these days. Right now I can see no point in it because nobody was lookin' at it and they're all makin' an ass out of her. And we know that some parts of it are legitimate.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay, and this [smear of Mrs. Herman] was in the current National
Enquirer.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah. And in the current National Enquirer the story is changed,
completely different to what it was. They're making a fool out of
her. But we have verified some of the stuff, and we know the
connection.
This goes right to... In fact, the thing fell apart when Kiki Camarena got killed in Mexico.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay. And he was set up, right?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah. He was also crooked.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
He was crooked!? I'm surprised to hear that.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
And so, they just "bumped him off" because he was takin'...
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah. There was a massacre involved with it, with this group of
guys. It was a place called Tapachula, either in Mexico or just
across the border in... What is the next country? Guatemala?
But the place is Tapachula, and they murdered everybody. A village.
And I, right now... Do you know where Batavia, Illinois is?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Okay. I am currently negotiating with somebody. There is a
"spook" [spy] hiding out in Batavia, that we're trying to get in
from the cold, that was alive and was involved in all of this
stuff. And he's trying to stop from catching the "flu" [i.e.,
being murdered].
CONSPIRACY NATION:
And with Camarena, I'm not clear on -- why exactly did he get
killed?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Well... It was, the whole thing fell apart. It had to do... The
exact reason I don't know, but I know they were all involved.
See, this guy Carone that I keep talking about: when he came back
from... (The exact reason I haven't heard yet.) But when Carone
came back from, after Camarena got killed, and tells his daughter
that the "guys in the suits" are gonna get him and he's gotta go
to New York. Now, number one, Carone was also a "made man" in the
mob. And he goes to New York and he comes back, and in a short
period of time, he's dead. And whatever transpired with the Kiki
Camarena death, it blew everything up.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Somebody else that's written about a lot of this stuff with the
so-called "war on drugs" is Mike Levine.
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Yeah.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Have you read any of his books?
JIMMY ROTHSTEIN:
Not really. I've read some of the short stuff. I haven't read the
book yet, no.
He's pretty accurate on some of this stuff.
Carone is the first break that we got in the money trail. You see, the thing here is that I can personally identify this guy. Which, we've never been able... We know he was movin' money. And everybody that was associated with him were crooked cops from New York that I knew.
Again, if this sounds like it's all spread out all over the place, it's not. When you follow Al Carone and Russell Herman, you're right back to Inslaw and PROMIS software and all these people. It always ends up, as you go up the ladder, you'll find there's, like, forty, fifty people. And I don't care what end of this you look at, you always end up with these same people.
[...to be continued...]
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