("Quid coniuratio est?")
I spoke by phone with long-time Washington reporter Sara McClendon on the afternoon of August 30th, 1995. The following are brief excerpts from that interview. The entire interview will appear in the October 1995 issue of the Conspiracy Nation Newsletter. For info on the newsletter, send inquiries to bigxc@prairienet.org
Note that I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with either all or parts of the following. Persons mentioned are invited to send me their rebuttals, of reasonable length, for probable distribution.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay. And goin' back to Debra von Trapp: I had interviewed her,
and she told me quite an amazing story -- okay? -- about...
SARA McCLENDON:
About Japan.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Do you give any credibility to that?
SARA McCLENDON:
No, I do not. But she has her own business connections with them.
She does know a man, she says, that she worked with on the transition from [George] Bush to Clinton, who she says "bugged" the White House machines. And she says that he told her that, "We took down Foster." He worked at the time, supposedly, for the CIA and the FBI.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah! That would be Robert Goetzman. That she was sayin'...
SARA McCLENDON:
That's right.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
...that. Do you believe that story?
SARA McCLENDON:
Yes, I do.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
You believe that Goetzman was involved in that?!
SARA McCLENDON:
Goetzman must have been. Because he told her, according to her,
that "We took care of Foster."
I know how to get in touch with Goetzman. But he was furious when I found him. [laughs]
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Clinton seems to be causing, or at least assisting, the self-
destruction of the Democratic Party...
SARA McCLENDON:
No. He's not doing anything of the sort. He wouldn't do anything
like that. That's ridiculous. The Democratic Party has been goin'
downhill for the last two or three campaigns. And they're going
downhill because they don't have enough sense to have any
leadership! They don't take leadership! They don't do
anything! It's not Clinton's fault!
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay. And what about these recent allegations you may have heard
of, that Foster had $2.86 million in a Swiss bank account?
SARA McCLENDON:
I know nothing about that. I know absolutely nothing about that,
and I doubt that the people that say that can prove it.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Are you familiar with Jim Norman's recent article? ["Fostergate"]
SARA McCLENDON:
I certainly am. From the beginning I have talked to him and lived
with him, before he got fired and after he got fired [from
Forbes magazine]. And I don't believe that part of his story. I
don't believe that Foster was an agent for Israel. I don't
believe Foster was givin' away atomic secrets to Israel. And I
don't think that could possibly be.
I think that stuff was put out by the CIA because they evidently wanted to cover up something else.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
What about Jonathan Pollard? Is Pollard just a bit player in all
this? Like, he took the fall for this?
SARA McCLENDON:
Pollard is a very strange person. And I understand, I think it's
about September the 12th that there's a hearing for Pollard (I
think in Washington); a parole hearing. And Pollard's friends
think he's gonna be out of prison by November.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
It's almost like they had to find somebody to be guilty for it.
And so they just took him to be the one as the scapegoat for all
this.
SARA McCLENDON:
That's apparently right.
I think we have yet to find out some cause to all this. We should follow the Foster investigation so thoroughly that we finally get back to Bush and Weinberger and find out what really happened!
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay. But it seems like, that sometimes they can get pretty
rough. There's a lot of suspicious deaths, for example, connected
with the JFK assassination: there were a lot of witnesses that
suddenly had so-called "heart attacks".
SARA McCLENDON:
Well I'm on the board of an organization called "Coalition for
Political Assassinations". And we are studying these... In fact,
we are having our second meeting in Washington this fall. And
it's a wonderful meeting. It brings together scientists and all
kinds of people who know what they're doing. And they write
papers about Jack Kennedy's death. And we don't speculate at all.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Are you familiar with this person (you may not be), his name is
Orlin Grabbe?
SARA McCLENDON:
Yes, I'm familiar with his work. I know what he's doing. He's a
very talented, very well-educated, qualified person who's taught
at Wharton School of Finance. And he taught, he wrote a textbook
that's used around the world by bankers. And he is a very well-
qualified man. But he's retired. He just suddenly got in the
business of writing. And he's writing all these exposes' for
Internet every day, and everybody's readin' them. And he
doesn't... Some of it he knows, and some of it he knows from
experience, and some of it he's assuming.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
[The drug trade is] a huge industry.
SARA McCLENDON:
I think that both parties are gettin' their money for the
election from narcotics. And I think the government is letting
the narcotics come in here.
I think we're pretty silly to sit here every day and not do more investigation about the dope and the narcotics. It's a bigger issue than a lot of the issues that we're playin' with.
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