("Quid coniuratio est?")
Troy Underhill on KSFO Radio
July 19, 1995
Troy Underhill, of Media Bypass magazine, was the guest on a radio show out of the San Francisco area recently. He discussed the explosive James R. Norman article, "Fostergate" (in the current issue of Media Bypass; phone 1-800-4BYPASS to order).
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GEOFF METCALF [continues]:
And he's been holding for quite a while, so let's get to Bill,
first. Bill, in San Francisco, you're on KSFO with Troy Underhill
and Geoff Metcalf. Howdy!
And also, I'd like to know, how do they get money from Swiss bank accounts? I thought those were untouchable. How are they pullin' it out of the account?
TROY UNDERHILL:
Well, it's when you can enter into a "back door". Now Geoff
wanted me to keep it simple and I'm not the computer analyst that
some people, that have documented the information in this
article...
GEOFF METCALF:
Basically, what the PROMIS software did, and the way it was
converted by Bob Maxwell and the guy, the guys who were peddling
it: it allowed the banks to track the transactions, but we could
"sneak in" through the "back door". That's what the CIA was
doing, is what a group of guys...
TROY UNDERHILL:
We can go into account #179437... There's like a 60-digit row of
numbers that equal one bank account. And we can enter that bank
account, and then take... Let's say there was a 5 million dollar
transaction in that bank account that day. We could take the
transaction data account number and move it to another account!
And that's, the next morning, that's where it is.
TROY UNDERHILL:
They... I would say this: that some very prominent politicians in
our U.S. House of Representatives and our U.S. Senate are
involved in this. And the name for Systematics, Incorporated,
Jackson Stephens, who is a billionaire out, just "happens to be"
out of Arkansas, if people will look at who is financing a major
contribution to Bob Dole's presidential election, you will find a
man by the name of Jackson Stephens.
TROY UNDERHILL:
Yes, sir.
TROY UNDERHILL:
I've heard some about that. A person, a friend of mine who has a
friend who has a friend, who has access to some of these bank
account numbers, says that that was not as credible as it was
built up to be, and there was never an account down there that
they could find. And these men are...
TROY UNDERHILL:
Yes. It was "Chelsea Rodham" I believe, or "Chelsea Jefferson".
These men work for the agency [CIA] as computer hackers, and they
could not find any trace of it in that location.
GEOFF METCALF:
Bill, I thank you for the call. We're gonna have to take a brief
pause, and then we'll come back to Troy Underhill and continue
our discussion about their controversial story called
"Fostergate", which will be in the August issue.
Troy, a lot of people are asking: Can they only get Media Bypass by the phone number? Or can they get it in a bookstore somewhere?
TROY UNDERHILL:
There is, we have about 400 distributors, mainly in the midwest.
There's a few out west. But they can call an 800 number [info on
how to subscribe].
GEOFF METCALF:
Good enough. In the meantime, we're gonna talk to Virginia, in
Sonol(?). You're on KSFO with Troy Underhill and Geoff Metcalf.
Hi, Virginia!
GEOFF METCALF:
Good, thank you.
And I would like to comment that this is not a new story. The first coverage of this (and it pertains not just to any particular president, but to our intelligence community as a whole) dates back to a Wired article in December of 1993 that dealt with FINCEN. And the article was written by Anthony Kemmering. And it pertains to every individual out there. The United States government is trying to track anything over 100 dollars in any bank account for any individual citizen in the U.S. FINCEN is the agency created by the United States government. And it's (FINCEN stands for FINancial Crimes Enforcement Network) to monitor banking.
And FINCEN used PROMIS as a "back door", they had a "trojan horse". But thereby a man named Michael Riconosciuto and the Wackenhut Security Corporation, which was Bill Casey's firm, to follow up third world nations in their bankings with the larger banks, within the United States.
There has been many deaths over this {5}. I don't know if Troy's familiar with Danny Casolaro, but he was executed in Martinsburg, West Virginia, over this story. Two weeks prior to Danny's death, there was an execution murder in Guatemala of a financial news network stringer by the name of Anton Inge(?). And Alan Cranston drew our attention to that -- former senator Alan Cranston.
GEOFF METCALF:
Virginia, there is a long list of names, that continues to grow
in length, of people who have died mysteriously and/or through
alleged "suicides" and what not. We've published the list in the
past. We've put it out. It's available to those people who want
it.
And all I wanted to tell your listeners is, that Michael Riconosciuto is detailed in length, along with the O.S.S. connection, by Mr. Garrison, long before this story ever became front page news.
GEOFF METCALF:
I tell you what, Virginia. I'd like to put you on hold. And if
you'd be kind enough to give a phone number to my producer's son,
or where I can get a hold of you off the air, I'd like to do that
again.
In the meantime, let's get to Mark in Pleasant Hill. You're on KSFO with Troy Underhill and Geoff Metcalf. Hi!
GEOFF METCALF:
Yeah. I know what that has to do with: the blue and the red
money.
GEOFF METCALF:
Well I tell ya what. You're digressing a little bit on what we're
talking about here. And I don't know if...
GEOFF METCALF:
Well let's ask him. Troy, is there anything that magazine is
working on, connected with that?
TROY UNDERHILL:
Well, I'll say this, Geoff. I don't know how many months you've
had our magazine. We're in the middle of our third year. And
these are the types, along with educational, historical,
constitutional issues, that we've been dealing with since our
inception.
And with the paper currency, that's another tracking mechanism, versus overseas, where it would be a different color denomination. We have dealt with these subjects and with [those of] the lady who spoke with, that called in just a moment ago. We have been doing this.
But the thing that makes this, that we feel makes this story so prominent, is the fact that the involvement with one of the leading, one of the what a lot of us would call the "secular media" or the "controlled" media. [i.e., connection to Forbes of Jim Norman, author of the "Fostergate" article.]
[...to be continued...]
--------------------------<< Notes >>---------------------------- {5} "There has been many deaths over this." See, for example, the article by Nick Guarino of The Wall Street Underground, beginning in CN 3.55, which went out in January of this year.
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