Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 5 Num. 62

("Quid coniuratio est?")

[CN Editor -- I cannot vouch for the accuracy of all of the following. It may or may not be true, I just don't know.]

[The following is a transcript of a recorded phone message put out by a group in Chicago called "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts [CCCC]." (312) 731-1100 and (312) 731-1505.]

Hi! Sherman Skolnick, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, 9800 South Oglesby.

We talked with Cibacuyo Agueybana, an assassination researcher, upstate New York, making a documentary movie on the attempt to assassinate former Alabama governor George Wallace while he was running as a third party candidate for president, 1972.

Wallace survived, and has been in a wheelchair, and now, bedridden.

CIBACUYO AGUEYBANA: ...had submitted to the governor, and he went question by question, answering each one as I stood at his bedside. We were, however allowed the privilege of being able to photograph him [i.e., still photos, not video]. We took about 10 photos inside, inside his residence.

SHERMAN SKOLNICK: In other words, he's in bad shape these days.

CIBACUYO AGUEYBANA: He's bedridden, and Parkinson's disease has taken its toll on his voicebox. He is barely able to make himself audible, so that most of the questions, though not all of them, most of them he will answer "yes" or "no".

SHERMAN SKOLNICK: I think, for the benefit of the viewers, we should note that at the time that he was shot, so to speak, into a wheelchair instead of the cemetery, he was polling about 21 percent of the vote.

CIBACUYO AGUEYBANA: Which comes to 26 million popular votes at the ballot box.

SHERMAN SKOLNICK: But because of the different states that it was into, he could have, in the election of George McGovern running very poorly against Nixon, he could have had the whole thing, under a little-known provision of the Constitution, for the first time in the 20th century, thrown it into the House of Representatives where it would have been in turmoil, where we wouldn't have had a president for a long time.

Recently we did a show, by the way, with some third party candidates, spokespersons, and including those for Perot. And I raised the same question: he had 19 percent in the '92 election. And when I raised this question they says, "Oh! So if Perot had 21 percent, like Wallace, they'd have to shoot him?" I says, "In my opinion, yes."

Well why is that? Well some of us believe that the ultra rich are very sarcastic, that they believe in the bullet, not the ballot. Is that the bottom line of the whole deal?

CIBACUYO AGUEYBANA: Well actually no. The bottom line in the whole deal is the almighty dollar: who can best serve the interests of the northeastern Atlantic elite and the southwestern Pacific elite.

SHERMAN SKOLNICK: Now let's remind people of what the context was: just prior to the time that they tried to shoot him to death, which was in May of '72, he had made a statement (let's remind the viewers). He says, "If I'm elected, first of all, there's no more than 10 cents of difference between the parties." (He was a third party; very popular.) He says, "If I'm elected, one of the first things I'm gonna do is tax the Rockefeller Foundation, which is just a front not to pay taxes." When I heard that, I says, "Wallace, you haven't got enough life insurance."

CIBACUYO AGUEYBANA: One of these questions that I asked the governor, in writing, was, "Was there a conspiracy behind the shooting of your person?" He said, "Yes. Definitely a conspiracy." {1}. And then he looked up on the page to where a previous question had been asked regarding Richard Nixon. And with the stub of his cigar, he poked at the name of Richard Nixon. He said, "Conspiracy!"

And there was no way that Richard Nixon was ever going to be re-elected with Wallace in the campaign. The bottom line is that the campaign was, to get back into the oval office, he would have to do away with Wallace so that most of those 26 million voters which were center or right-of-center that had been casting in Wallace's favor would go over to the side of the president.

He points out that a few weeks after Wallace was shot, some of those implicated were also involved in fingering Nixon by getting caught at the Watergate hotel -- including E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis.

Watergater Donald Segretti planted Nazi flags at Wallace rallies to spoil his name.

A one-hour cable TV version of this interview will be on our cable TV show at a future date.

In Chicago, see us on channel 21, 9 p.m. most Monday evenings.

Play it again: "The Corrupt Getting of Gambling Casino Licenses." (312) 731-1505.

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---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- {1} Montgomery, Alabama (AP) -- Former Gov. George C. Wallace asked President Clinton to reopen the federal investigation into the assassination attempt 21 years ago that crippled Wallace and ended his presidential aspirations.

Wallace said he doesn't believe the man who shot him was acting alone.

[Excerpted from the June 29, 1993 Champaign-Urbana News-Gazette]

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