("Quid coniuratio est?")
INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- JULY 4, 1995 I spoke by phone with Sherman Skolnick on the morning of July 4, 1995. The following is what he said. Note that I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with either all or parts of the following. Persons mentioned in the interview are invited to send their rebuttals, of reasonable length, to bigxc@prairienet.org for probable distribution.
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, okay.
How's... You know, you, last time we talked, you were bein' attacked and threatened. How's that goin' along?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well somebody today calls me up and says, "We can send the
Michigan Militia to guard your house."
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, but I can understand that... You know what the media would
do with that?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
First of all, I'm one of the few white people in a black
neighborhood. I get along with all types: the moderator of
our cable TV show is a black. I get along with the Arabs, I get
along with fellow Jews, I get along with Black Muslims. I've had
Arab dissidents on our TV program. We are fair. We don't slant
the thing either way. We're very fair minded.
The problem is that the media's given the impression that the Michigan Militia is bigots -- although they have blacks in the Michigan Militia. But if some of them were to take up a post outside my house, then some people wrongly perceive them as bigots, it might create problems among my neighbors.
My house is being turned into a heavily fortified address. Beyond that, I cannot comment on my security.
I told the police, who really do not... They called me the other day, and they didn't really want to hear what I had to say. And I told them that, the reason I'm in this fix and do not, have no protection is, I did a cable show, 7 or 8 months ago, contending that the Superintendent of Police of Chicago, Rodriguez, is corrupt. And we were very specific.
But the law that provides for the equal protection of the laws, which are in the 14th amendment, do not say, "Every person shall get equal protection of the laws, except Skolnick, because he criticizes the Superintendent of Police."
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, okay...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
So in other words, I can't have the Michigan Militia surround my
house for protection. It may make things more severe.
Uh, what I know about the Pollard case, the Foster case, Caspar Weinberger and Bush, and all the blackmailing and... In a way, I'm flattered that, apparently, to stop anyone from publishing my story, somebody out there is waving around a million dollars!
And I'm likewise flattered and surprised that this Marine colonel reportedly showed up in the offices of Media Bypass Friday, at a time that they thought that they might get my story, with the opening shot of $100,000 in a suitcase, in cash! I mean... Then I find out that there's other such situations, uh... there's other attempts to buy out the situation, which are in flux. And I'd be unwise to talk about it. But it's the same thing. They're trying to buy out persons that may influence me in some way, with lucrative, money-making deals, some of 'em. And now, we understand, there may be a national security injunction against the printing company that is gonna publish, or about to publish: Media Bypass.
There's somethin' goin' on!
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay. Maybe switchin' subjects a little bit, but with the
upcoming hearings on Waco and on Whitewater -- do you have any
recent information on that?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I was on a radio show [out of] Glendale, California, Friday. This
last Friday.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay, and you were piped in behind Christopher Ruddy, right?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah! Who talked about appearing before the grand jury and
advising them how they should assist themselves and become
independent and a so-called "runaway" grand jury (which is very
patriotic).
I don't know. In other words, others tell me that I and my associates may well be subpoenaed to the grand jury, in the District of Columbia. We now know that Systematics, which is in the bank, computer software business, their lawyers wrote to me (and you put it on Internet) stating that...
CONSPIRACY NATION:
No. Hold on. You know, Sherman, I never did put that on Internet.
Because I, I just wanted to hold back on it a little bit.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Okay. But there was a story on Internet, the last couple of days,
that there's an across-the-board effort by Systematics lawyers to
jump on anyone that wants to say or put anything contending that
they spied for NSA.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. And I checked the name of the lawyer...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Charles O. Morgan, jr. of San Francisco.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. Same lawyer.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Okay, but what we found out is, that they are only (How could I
put this?)... They got a technical out: that between Systematics
and NSA, there are three "cut outs" -- companies that are
intermediaries, which appear to be NSA and CIA proprietaries.
Therefore, the higher-ups at Systematics will say, "I don't know
about any spying!! We didn't spy on any other banks." It may be
that the intermediaries did it.
One of the intermediaries is, reportedly, in Little Rock and is acting as a go-between for Household International of Chicago, which brings the matter back to some stories that I think you've already put on Internet, about the Andreuccetti affair and Household International, Household Bank, as the successors to the CIA-linked Nugan-Hand Bank of Australia. {2}.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. A lot of that's gone out. I sent out the interview that we
did at the River Flame Restaurant. {3}.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah, okay. So, but now there is an apparent buffer, or
intermediary, between Systematics. Which may give them an excuse
to say, "Well we're not directly involved! We don't know
about any spying! We don't do any spying!"
Or it may be that the three companies, that are NSA proprietaries, in-between them and NSA, are doin' the actual thing. You see what I'm saying?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. I understand that. And...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
A "cut out" is sort of a, uh -- you know what a "cut out" is. An
espionage "cut out".
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Well it's a way that funds are transferred. That, they hide the
transfer of funds, like going from, for example, the CIA to a
certain group of people that, it's a way to disguise the
transfer.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah. Yeah. Or disguise the activity, by having somebody in-
between.
So that's what all is happening. There's things about Israel, Mossad, Foster, Caspar Weinberger and Bush. It seems to be a very deadly, serious thing. And I just got a call from a Washington correspondent that says that "all Hell may break loose" as a result of the front-page story mentioning Conspiracy Nation and Skolnick.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
I'm dyin' to go out and get that paper!
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I'm hurrying up an updated version and another segment of my
"secret report story". And as soon as I get it done, I may also
fax it to you.
I strongly urge that you get out this interview as quickly as possible, to get the story before the public. The Washington Post thing is slanted. And this story may enlighten the public.
See, what this proves is that Internet is powerful. Here's your thing, on Internet, on the front page of the Washington Post!
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. And the thing is, goin' back to this libel thing, the
lawyers and the libel: I suspect that there's some concerted
effort to use fear of libel as a way to try to silence people.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah. True.
The Washington Post front page proves that Internet is powerful, and that your news service is, really pulls. It really gets to them.
---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- {2} Info on the Andreuccetti affair should be available as follows: (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom (4) choose Whitewater sub-menu ("L'affaire Whitewater") (5) choose Andreuccetti Affair.
{3} When in Calumet City, Illinois, be sure to visit the River Flame Restaurant, Skolnick's "home away from home".
I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."
Coming to you from Illinois -- "The Land of Skolnick"