("Quid coniuratio est?")
INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- MARCH 20, 1995
On March 20, 1995, I interviewed Mr. Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts [CCCC] by telephone. The following is my transcription of that interview. Note that in this interview I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with either all or some of the statements of Mr. Skolnick.
-- Brian Francis Redman, Editor-in-chief, Conspiracy Nation
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CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. That was your most recent commentary. I put that out; that
went out last night.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And Propaganda Due is tied in with the Gladio thing that came
out, in a tremendous scandal in Switzerland.
In other words, they're a secret group that is promoting fascism and wants to do away with representative government. There's been things published about P-2 and Gladio.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. But, you know, you've lived in Chicago all your life, as I
understand it. And looking back on the history of Chicago, have
there been any "colorful scoundrels" that you can think of?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Uh, yeah. The ones in the courthouse! [laughs]
CONSPIRACY NATION:
[laughs]
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Some of 'em are still there! Some of 'em are very colorful. The
scoundrels are not all gone.
And the other thing you gotta understand about Chicago is, whatever criminality there is they want to blame on two groups that may not be that much involved: street gangs (mostly blacks and Hispanics), and the traditional Italian and Sicilian mafia. But the best way to understand that is, they front for the "blue-stocking" trade, the ones that are in the social directory. They don't want to do their dirty business directly, so they do it through these other people.
And I'm hoping, someday, that a former mafioso (if there is such a thing) will enlighten us as to the dirty work that they do for the very wealthy, that do not wish to dirty their hands with various things: with the dope trade... with various things.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
You did a commentary once that I wish I had recorded. For some
reason, I figured "Aw, no. I'm not gonna..." And maybe you'll run
it again. That, it dealt with, along the lines of "The dope
shipment had arrived, so Mayor Daley ordered a special police
escort to bring the dope to..."
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Oh yeah! We did a show on that. We did a one-hour show on that.
We had interviewed some very well-placed people in law-
enforcement. And they told us how the dope business really
operates in Chicago. It operates through... Well, they had a
protected warehouse on the north side [of Chicago] and they had
one on the south side. And the truckloads of dope would come,
escorted by a police car! [laughs]
CONSPIRACY NATION:
[laughs]
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And the dope is piled up, like so many bags of coffee!
And we also know of a very fancy restaurant, that's on North Milwaukee Avenue here, where the dopers and the police brass meet, jointly.
So about six weeks after our television show, the law enforcement people busted a south side warehouse posing as a "truck repair" place. And trucks would come in, with dope in the panels of the truck.
They did not, however, bust the major dope warehouse on the north side. And our moderator suggested that we not give the exact address, for fear that it'll be bombed and that innocent people, driving by or walking by, will be hurt, not knowing what's in that warehouse.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. And this brings to mind, I had asked you about the other
panelists on your show. And you told me about Jim Reis and Cliff
Kelley. But... (I like all your group there; I think you got a
good chemistry.) But what about Marc Sato? Any background on him?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
He had worked some years ago for IBM. And I think he's in the
process of writing a book. He has gone into seclusion; he hasn't
been on our show for several months now.
But he was on our show from the beginning, from '91 up until about the end of '94. He's a computer expert and he's a third- generation Japanese-American.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. And he wrote... Did he write a book, The Law That Never
Was, or somethin' like that?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah. He did the principal work for two volumes, which a few of
the larger libraries have it. But it was privately printed. It's
generally not available outside of the Anti-Tax movement.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
So is he the author, then, of that? Or...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
He's not listed as the author, but he actually wrote the thing.
'Cuz the guy they list as an author, I know. And he's not a
writer! [laughs] So somebody other than the listed author
obviously wrote the thing.
It's an interesting documentary study of the 16th amendment being fraudulently obtained, and that the necessary number of states never ratified the 16th amendment. And therefore the underpinning of the IRS is fraudulent.
I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."
Coming to you from Illinois -- "The Land of Skolnick"