("Quid coniuratio est?")
INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- MARCH 6, 1995
On March 6, 1995, I interviewed Mr. Sherman Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts [CCCC] by telephone. The following is my transcription of that interview. Note that in this interview I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with either all or some of the statements of Mr. Skolnick.
-- Brian Francis Redman, Editor-in-chief, Conspiracy Nation
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK [continues]:
It's a documented thing; it's not subject to rumors; it's
actually so.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right, why did they do that? Why would they finance a
communist revolution?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well... The right wing has explained it again and again. I did an
interview with a known author there. I forget his name, but I did
a 5-minute interview which I ran a few months ago. Some... I'm
not an expert on philosophy, so, uh he described it as a Hegelian
principle.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. Last time we talked...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
"Antithesis for the purposes of synthesis."
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that makes sense.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
In other words, they own both sides.
I know, you're gonna have to scratch your head and review what has happened with the Moscow government, since '89. In other words, were the Soviets "the big, bad wolf" for 40 years in order to help the American defense industry? Played up here...
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
...that "their submarines are off-shore" and "their bombers are
threatening us" and "blah blah" and "blah-blah". And then all of
a sudden, the Moscow government disintegrated.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
By the way: I don't know if you saw Internet this morning.
Somebody called me up, very early.
Reuters, or some...
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah! With the Missing in Action? The congressman found those
Vietnam veterans. Is that it?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
No, no.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
It is not in the American press, yet. So far as I know. But
Reuters, or somebody, interviewed that guy Leeson.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. Leeson, yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Barings Bank.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
He says that if they proceed to prosecute him, or try to send
him back to Singapore (where, he says they will murder him in
Singapore)... But if they try to prosecute him, he will name
names, that the top-most level of the British government is in
this deal involved, that they okayed it.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right. And that's on Reuters then.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I think it's Reuters. Somebody read it to me very early in the
morning. From Internet. It was posted on Internet.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Did they happen to say which newsgroup it was in?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Uh... I think they said Reuters, but I wouldn't bet on it.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, O.K.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
But the point is, this guy Leeson (if we are to believe him) is
threatening to bring down the London government. The French
government is about to be toppled because of the spy scandal. The
Rome government has been decimated by all those big shots being
hauled away to the jail in Milan.
Now, as a result (thanks to you) of my items being on Internet, I have gotten to know chief researchers in the financial field, worldwide, who call me, and use their conference facilities to put me in touch with other guys worldwide, and such. And the consensus is, that the American press is not giving the reasons for the collapse of the dollar. Which is ongoing this morning, you know?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
The reason that the Europeans give is that they have advance,
inside information, that in the next 90 days will be the downfall
of the Clinton White House, because of the expected indictment of
Hillary.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
How is the press... You know, the press has kind of been ignoring
this for so long. How is the press gonna suddenly do an about-
face on this? And...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well you gotta... Let me explain the position of people that I
know on the different exchanges, the Merck, and the Big Board,
and so on.
They says, "Skolnick. I help you with your information. Don't tell me what's gonna be next month. Tell me what's gonna be tonight! Call me at home, so that I can do something at the opening of the markets tomorrow."
CONSPIRACY NATION:
[Laughs]
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I says, "I'll tell ya what's gonna be in six..."
"I don't wanna hear it, Skolnick. You owe me a favor, Skolnick. I helped you with this, this, and this. And a friend of mine in the media gave you that story, so many years ago. Hey! You owe me one."
I says, "Yeah, tell me." I says, "I'm not in the business of bartering or brokering financial information, because that would get me into financial interest. I have no financial interest in this, and then and therefore I do my best to stay objective."
You see what I mean?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
But there are some that have been quietly interviewing most of
the most knowledgeable people -- not just me, but others all over
the world -- about the Whitewater thing and the possibility of
Hillary getting indicted, for the purpose of trying to figure out
where the market is and whether it will go beyond 4200 on the
Dow-Jones, and so on. I'm talking about chief researchers of
major brokerages that have -- I don't know what the word is --
befriended me, became acquainted with me... you know.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
They believe (some of 'em) that their European colleagues have
got inside information about Kenneth Starr, the independent
prosecutor, about to "drop the boom" or leak out stuff about
Hillary, which will roil up our central government and make
Clinton to be more of a wimp than he is, so that nobody that's a
diplomat will wanna shake hands with him on-camera anymore. You
know what I'm sayin'?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
I notice he doesn't go abroad very much. I don't know if
you've...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well that's because nobody... [sotto voce] The chief currency
traders that I have talked to... Hey! I've been doin' this since
'58. I will never mention who they are. Doesn't matter who
calls me up and says, "Skolnick. You've gotta tell me who they
are." I will not to say who they are! Their names, and details
of where they're located, are confidential.
But they say that their colleagues in Europe are convinced that there will be a downfall of the American central government in 90 days. In any case, by June. And so, they are dumping the dollar. And as much as the federal reserve drops money down that rathole, it only makes matters worse. It just gets worse, and worse, and worse, and worse.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. Do you foresee a military coup of some sort?
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well, you're gonna find this, also, very odd. But... I talk to
everybody. And I have been... I and associates of mine have been
put in touch with certain retired Generals, who -- are not to be
quoted!
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
But they talk, off-the-record, along the lines of the Admirals
and Generals that are named, by names, in the book Silent Coup.
He says there was 30 of 'em that overthrew Nixon. Their point, at
that time, was "It would be too messy." In other words, they,
like... They accused JFK of treason, at the Bay of Pigs. They
accused Nixon of treason with the Hanoi government. They didn't
want to stage an assassination in an open car; the public
wouldn't buy it a second time. So they set him up, with these
double-agents: James McCord and the rest of 'em.
Only the Brits wrote a paperback book about the double-agents. I have it here. I don't remember the title. Two British writers, I don't remember their names, wrote a paperback book about McCord and the others being double-agents who... The guard there took the tape off the door...
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, that's...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And McCord put the tape back! So...
CONSPIRACY NATION:
...Yeah...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
...there was somebody in the building! He put the tape back on
the door lock again. Did you see...
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, I...
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
McCord and them guys wanted to get caught!
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, that's fairly well known.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And I think I told you. Did I send you the thing about the plane
crash?
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Uh, no you didn't. You know, I've been workin' on the
Andreuccetti case.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
All right. But anyway, I got a thing about the plane crash.
Hunt's wife had $2 million that she blackmailed off of Nixon,
'cause Hunt and his wife had inside information that Nixon was
involved in the plot against JFK in Dallas.
CONSPIRACY NATION:
I take that back. You may have sent me that thing on the plane
crash.
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
It's an orange-colored thing. I sent it to ya.
[...to be continued...]
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