Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 44

("Quid coniuratio est?")

GLOBAL 2000: EARTH FIRST! FOR THE "MASTER RACE"

My transcript of a recent episode of a public access show, originating in Chicago, called "Broadsides". This episode featured independent researcher Sherman Skolnick, and author Mark Sato. Note that in the following I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with some or all of the views expressed.

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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And so they were disqualified. And the ones that said, "Yes"...

MARK SATO:
Well...

SKOLNICK

...proceeded to the next step in the project?

SATO

...Well, no. Obviously they have a problem. Especially if...

SKOLNICK

Who has a problem?

SATO

GIs. If they are sent into a... Let's say they're sent into an African-American community and they're told, "This community is out of control. Go in there and impose martial law. And if anybody moves, shoot 'em."

Now there's quite a large minority of the GIs, in this country, who are African-American. Now...

SKOLNICK

They're trying to get 'em out! They're trying to whittle them down, out of the army!

SATO

Now, now, now, Sherman. Nevertheless -- Hey. They're not gonna whittle 'em down in six years, Sherman. There's gonna be plenty of 'em in the army at the time at which they're going to promote and provoke problems in African-American communities and send troops in there for the purpose of gunning down as many people as they can.

SKOLNICK

Well, notice this...

SATO

O.K.? Wait a minute, Sherman!

And so, when they ask black GIs, "Will you shoot Americans?", they really know that, you know, anybody who's got half a brain understands what the question really means. It means, "Will I shoot my brother, in his own community, in his doorway?" That's what it really means.

SKOLNICK

But notice: some of us view the Vietnam War in very cynical terms. In the '60s, from all these civil rights marches [by] Dr. King and others, there were rising expectations...

SATO

By the way, Sherman. Before you get into that, I'd just like to make one very important point about these African-American GIs in a situation in which they would be required (unless they wanted to be hung) to shoot their brothers -- and that is that, the situation in Roseland that you mentioned has caused the FBI to go into the Roseland community, to be, to mingle with the police...

SKOLNICK

The gestapo!

SATO

Yeah, the gestapo.

...to mingle with the police. And this is a first strike, in the black communities in Chicago, to start provoking the African- American [unclear] into...

SKOLNICK

Federal police.

SATO

Wait a minute. Sherman. Quiet.

...into a situation in which there will be the requirement that American GIs, and black GIs, be sent into this community for the distinct purpose of wiping out their brothers!

SKOLNICK

On the excuse that there's...

SATO

...there's trouble.

SKOLNICK

There's dope that the CIA brought in.

SATO

There's dope, there's guns, which has been brought in by the British and American...

SKOLNICK

All right. But notice this genocide problem, that this is an ongoing thing.

During the Vietnam War, the black population of the United States was eleven-and-a-half percent. But they constituted twenty-six percent of those that were in the jungles in Vietnam. Blacks. People of color.

Now what was the problem at that time, and from a cynical standpoint? Dr. King and others, because of the marching, was getting the blacks with rising expectation: equal employment, "they're gonna have a house", "they're gonna have a job", and so on. And how did LBJ [President Johnson] deal with this? With the body bags. He sent 'em over there to be slaughtered! That's how he dealt with their rising expectations.

And, here's the "national security" question, the so-called. When Dr. King, in April of '67 made a speech, what'd he say? He says, "I am going to go to Vietnam to tell black GIs not to slaughter yellow-skinned people in somebody else's civil war." So he was implying the genocide angle right there. And of course, a year to the day, they slaughtered him.

SATO

Sherman...

SKOLNICK

On "national security" reasons!

SATO

Sherman, you make, you made an even more important point at the outset: that is...

SKOLNICK

...yellow people...

SATO

No, no, no.

...that King was trying to hold out hope for economic development of the African-American communities. That is verboten. You cannot do that.

What'd they say in this National Security Study Memorandum written by Henry Kissinger? They said, "Forget about economic development." Now what is the biggest problem in the African- American communities today with regard to economic situations? Lack of jobs! Now. They're not gonna get any jobs! Why? Because Clinton has passed, has rammed through, GATT and NAFTA. And we have turned the American economy from an economy with 250 million consumers, into an economy, into a world economy, where there are 5.6 billion consumers, many of whom are earning 19 cents an hour. And we're gonna ask the African-Americans who don't have jobs to compete with 19-cents-an-hour labor? It ain't gonna happen.

So you see, Sherman... The problem today is that GATT and NAFTA have completely foreclosed any hope for education, for jobs, in the African-American community. It is done. It's over with.

SKOLNICK

So they're using, insofar as... Well, Mexico was [unclear] with...

SATO

But you see, Sherman, that is why they have to be panicked about what's going to happen in the African-American communities when people finally figure out that there is not gonna be any more education, there's not gonna be jobs. It's 19 cents an hour.

SKOLNICK

All right, let's see if this fits in with your thesis there: Mexico is principally Indians. People of color. And therefore, this whole NAFTA thing, to use them as cheap labor: does that fit into your genocide theory in some way?

SATO

Sure. NAFTA now... And the people in the State Department want to lower the population of Mexico from over 60 million to under 20 million.

SKOLNICK

How?

SATO

Hey folks, there's a group out there called "Chiapas", which is gonna start provoking civil war like crazy in Mexico. And they're going to cause a tremendous, devastating war in Mexico which wipes out over 40 million people.

SKOLNICK

O.K. So wait a minute. So this uh, your thesis is that this putting an FBI task force -- according to the September 8th, '94 issue of the [Chicago] Tribune, which is right on the front page: "FBI Task Force Joins City Police to Fight Gangs". That's their excuse! But actually, they're putting the gestapo into the inner city...

SATO

...for the purpose of making sure that there is a point at which the African-American community explodes, and they have to send in their troops and kill everybody...

SKOLNICK

Before we run out of time: you also feel that these attacks on black celebrities are not accidental.

SATO

No. They're not accidental at all. They have money, they have influence. The FBI wants to get rid of 'em.

SKOLNICK

Why?

SATO

O.J. Simpson. Michael Jordan's father. Michael Jackson.

SKOLNICK

Why?

SATO

Because they're [unclear], according to the FBI; they're not "worthy" of having any position of influence or wealth.

SKOLNICK

O.K. And since they are now quite wealthy, if they ever became political -- I'm not saying that O.J. Simpson was or is political, or Michael Jackson was or is political -- but were they, in a time of the American gestapo running out of control, they might say something and have to be heard worldwide... among white people, among people of color. You couldn't shut them up. If they held a press conference, it'd be covered.

So they're discredited. They're "murderers", they're "child molesters".

SATO

Or they're just murdered, period.

SKOLNICK

Yeah. In other words, because they're well-known they don't want them as spokesmen for the Afro-American community. Is that the point?

SATO

They don't want them as spokesmen for anybody.

SKOLNICK

So, well what you're saying is, whether Mel Reynolds, the congressman, is or is not a sleazebag as accused, it's interesting that of all the crooked congressmen that they could think about, they centered on him. That's not accidental, right? They could find some other congressmen that are equally as crooked as him.

SATO

Sure.

SKOLNICK

Assuming that he's crooked.

SATO

Well yeah. But that comes down to, "Take a whole handful of darts and just throw it at the [unclear], and anybody you hit..."

SKOLNICK

All right, before we run out of time, what suggestion do you have? You've laid out a very somber thing there. How do we get into the next century?

SATO

In my view, there aren't a whole lot of solutions, simply because...

SKOLNICK

Well, before we run out of time, give us some.

SATO

There are certain African-Americans who wish there to be reparations to the African-Americans because of slavery. That is not practical for a lot of reasons. It's...

SKOLNICK

Oh I'm for it if the ultra-rich pay for it!

SATO

Sherman, that's impractical.

SKOLNICK

...shouldn't tax the rest of us. The ultra-rich: let them pay!

SATO

They're not gonna do that unless you "string 'em up".

SKOLNICK

"String" who up?

SATO

The super-rich.

SKOLNICK

The Rockefellers.

SATO

Yeah. That's not gonna happen.

So the only thing I would suggest is a strike. A mortgage strike.

SKOLNICK

Well, we're running out of time.

SATO

...A rent strike.

SKOLNICK

We're running out of time. And we thank everybody for listening. We've worried a lot of 'em. People secretly think that maybe we represent the Tylenol and aspirin industry with these programs [laughs]. We do worry people! But we hopefully cause you to think.

Thanks for listening, and watch us again on "Broadsides". Good evening.

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