Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 41

("Quid coniuratio est?")

GLOBAL 2000: EARTH FIRST! FOR THE "MASTER RACE"

My transcript of a recent episode of a public access show, originating in Chicago, called "Broadsides". This episode featured independent researcher Sherman Skolnick, and author Mark Sato. Note that in the following I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with some or all of the views expressed.

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MARK SATO [continues]:
And to give you an example: after the Nazis kind of "went away"...

SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well that's your theory that they went away.

SATO

Well...

SKOLNICK

I don't think they went away at all.

SATO

Well, they were...

SKOLNICK

I think they're still here!

SATO

...they were, allegedly, defeated.

But, of course, they didn't go away, precisely because the people who sponsored the idea of eugenics didn't go away.

SKOLNICK

...a eugenics society in the United States promoting this?

SATO

By and large, the idea of eugenics has floated over to the environmental people.

SKOLNICK

Really?

SATO

Pollution control and...

SKOLNICK

Pollution's about the same thing?

SATO

Yeah. Pollution control means population control, because the more people you have the more pollution you have, and the more danger we all face because there's "too many" people on the face of the earth!

SKOLNICK

And the aristocracy, a few years ago, through one of their secret society meetings -- the Bilderbergs or Trilateral Commission, whatever -- say, "Hey. All you in the aristocracy! Promote environmental. We gotta have..."

Where'd they have their conference? In Brazil or something? They had some big conference: "Promote the Environment".

SATO

Just recently they had the Cairo Conference.

SKOLNICK

O.K. So, but what you're saying is, this is just another word for eugenics,

SATO

That's right.

SKOLNICK

...to "weed out" what they feel are "inferior" people.

SATO

Now most of the environmentalists are, consider themselves liberal. And they would be horrified of this idea that you would pick the, for the most part, the people of color to get rid of because there's "too many" people on the face of the earth. But that, by and large, is what they really are saying, despite their perhaps, ignorance...

SKOLNICK

Well they have the media on their side.

SATO

...the real meaning of their movement.

SKOLNICK

I mean, they have the media on their side. Because, I mean, who do ya see as what I call "anchor faces", anchor people? "Blonde- haired dummies", as I call 'em. With a few token Oriental- Americans and a few... Like Linda Yu, over here, who's connected with the Chinese royal family...

SATO

Well they are indeed, Sherman, they are indeed tokens. Because the modern science... I don't really wanna call it "science". But the modern philosophy of eugenics is, was fathered by Bertrand Russell.

SKOLNICK

What about him?

SATO

Well Bertrand Russell, who was a British (and I hesitate to use the word "philosophy")...

SKOLNICK

I thought he was for peace? That's the only time I heard of Bertrand Russell, I heard he was...

SATO

Well... Bertrand Russell was for peace -- as in, "rest in peace" -- for most of the people of the earth. He said, "The white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers stable without help of war and pestilence." And of course, he did mean to impose war and pestilence on the asians and the, what he called "negroes". "Until that happens, the benefits aimed at by socialism can only be partially realized." (He was a socialist.) "And the less prolific races will have to defend themselves" -- Wait a minute -- "will have to defend themselves by methods which are disgusting, even if they are necessary."

SKOLNICK

I... He either mis-used the term socialism, in applying to himself... But there is a certain...

SATO

Never mind, Sherman. That's a whole different thing. Let's not get off on that tangent. Don't worry about... Don't worry about Mr. Russell's mis-using the word, because he wants to mis-use the entire planet! So don't worry about that little item.

SKOLNICK

So, in other words, he was for "peace" from the standpoint of "rest in peace". Well all right.

SATO

Right. Now the progress of Mr. Russell's ideas wound up in a report called "Global 2000".

SKOLNICK

Which is the title of this show.

SATO

Which is the title of this show. This big report, which was authored under the auspices of the Jimmy Carter administration. And of course, he is running around the world promoting the ideals of Global 2000.

SKOLNICK

I thought he was a born-again something.

SATO

Well... That's what he says. But anyway...

SKOLNICK

He's evidently not a born-again geneticist.

SATO

...here comes the number you were looking for, Sherman. "Global 2000 proposes that the population of the earth be lowered to 2 billion." Now of course...

SKOLNICK

By what means?

SATO

Well they don't say, exactly. But they want to lower it [to] 2 billion by the year 2000! That's why the report's called "Global 2000". There's 5.6 billion people on the face of the planet right now. Which means that they're gonna have to get rid of 3.6 billion people!

SKOLNICK

Well there's two ways you can do it.

SATO

In six years!

SKOLNICK

Well, no. There's two ways: they can start a nuclear war which endeavors to "knock off" a lot of people. I don't know where the aristocracy is gonna go; they're gonna go off in a missile to the moon or something.

SATO

Well, Sherman...

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Wait, wait. Before you go on! You shoot these things off, and then let me get a chance to...

SKOLNICK

Six years! They want to "knock off" that many...

SATO

They want to "knock off" that many people. But guess who says that it's a great way to do it?! What you just said, atomic war -- Robert S. McNamara, the former head of the World Bank, says that's, you know, "Nuclear war is great."

SKOLNICK

He's not a dummy. He was among what they called the "Wiz Kids"...

SATO

Of course he's not a dummy! And he knows what he's talking about! He knows how to wipe people off the face of the earth with a bunch of nuclear weapons. And he'd like to do it.

SKOLNICK

Well. I don't...

SATO

Because he says that the single biggest obstacle to progress on this planet is that there are "too many" people in the developing countries. So we can't have progress on the rest of the planet unless those people get "jettisoned" off the planet!

SKOLNICK

O.K. But let me understand this. In what way does the eugenics differ from genocide?

SATO

It doesn't!

SKOLNICK

It's about the same thing.

SATO

It's the same thing!

SKOLNICK

In other words, it should be "eugenics/genocide".

SATO

Genocide. And in a way, it's even more than genocide. It's like "geneticide" because they want to kill the bad genes...

SKOLNICK

You know, it's very odd. Because the ultra-right wing does a very odd thing: they use their newspapers to fight any treaty that has to do with genocide. And they twist it out of shape and says, "Well it's bad for the people."

SATO

Well that's because the "Genocide Treaty", as it's called, is really not about genocide.

SKOLNICK

Yeah, O.K.

SATO

That's a misnomer. It really doesn't apply.

SKOLNICK

But in other words, these eugenics, this genocide -- who is it directed against? Against people of color?

SATO

It's directed mostly at people of color. But it's really, not really necessarily a racial thing. It's more of a class thing. Let me give you an example.

SKOLNICK

A class thing.

SATO

Let me give you an example.

In December of '74, there was a National Security Study Memorandum, number 200, which was authored by Henry Kissinger -- formerly known as "Heinz" Kissinger, because he's actually a German. A German zafardi(?), by the way. And it was called, "The Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests." And it was about the national security of the United States.

Now understand: whenever somebody says, "national security", they're talking a treasonous thing. Because whenever people talk about "national security" of the United States, they're saying, "We want to discuss something that is so horrendous that nobody in their right minds would discuss it..."

SKOLNICK

By the way, you brought up one angle of the Second World War, the European angle, the Holocaust and so on...

SATO

Wait, wait, wait. Before you go back...

SKOLNICK

And that was genocide.

SATO

Right. Before you go back, let me finish this, let me finish this.

This National Security Memorandum expressed the fear that population growth in the Third World "will threaten U.S. strategic raw material supplies." In other words, too many people, say, in certain countries, in Latin America, would threaten the ability of the United States to access those strategic raw materials.

Now. What right we have to dictate how we get our strategic raw materials is of a little bit of interest. But anyway, the countries that Kissinger targeted for this "problem" of overpopulation were India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia, and Columbia. He wanted "to inhibit the wishful thinking that economic development will solve the problem of overpopulation." In other words, there is no economic development that would help; we must get rid of the people.

[...to be continued...]

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