Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 35

("Quid coniuratio est?")

EUSTACE MULLINS -- OCTOBER 28, 1994

Tom Valentine's guest on Radio Free America (Shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 28, 1994 was controversial author Eustace Mullins. Note that views expressed in the following do not necessarily reflect my own views or those of Conspiracy Nation.

+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

[...continued...]

TOM VALENTINE [continues]:
All right, we are back, live. My guest is Eustace Mullins, the author of a number of books: The New World Order, Secrets of the Federal Reserve, Murder by Injection, The Rape of Justice, The Curse of Canaan, and Education for Slavery, a brand new one.

Now I've not read all of those. I've got three of 'em I have read. In fact, The Secrets of the Federal Reserve (this'll bring back memories for ya, Eustace), I picked that up in a used bookstore in 1978 and read it -- the old, yellow-covered paperback, you remember?

EUSTACE MULLINS:
Oh yes. Um-hmm [affirmative].

VALENTINE

Yeah. And so that goes back quite awhile. You've been around. Like I said, you published this in '52. And I got an old one, an old copy, out of a used bookstore, way back then.

All right. John, in Folsom, Louisianna. You're on, with Eustace Mullins.

JOHN

Good afternoon, Tom! Great pleasure to hear Mr. Eustace Mullins. I have his book, also from a second-hand store.

Is it true that Kuhn and Loeb got their financial start manufacturing military, army uniforms in Cincinnati, Ohio, for the Union forces during the Civil War?

MULLINS

Yeah, that's true. They were actually outfitters. And they made so much money out of the Civil War that they went into banking. Because they made gold; in those days you were paid in gold. And they had so much gold, that they went to New York and became the banking house of the House of Rothschild in New York City.

JOHN

Now an author named "Wexler"(sp?) in Merchant Bankers says that Baron Rothschild set up the world's most extensive, effective, efficient, worldwide intelligence system two centuries ago. I prefer to believe that it's still intact and that it beats the KGB, or it beats the CIA, even today.

Would you comment on that?

VALENTINE

That's an interesting question!

MULLINS

Well it is, that's true. In fact, these intelligence services go back to the Bank of England in 1694. Because bankers found out that when you deal in large sums of money, you have got to have accurate information about the guy you're lending it to and what are his prospects of ever paying you back.

So the intelligence business was not a governmental business; it was a banking business. It always has been a banking business. The CIA, you know, in this country, is called "The Company" because they're very heavily into banking and investments. Bill Casey was one of the biggest operators on Wall Street -- he was head of the CIA.

So this... We're talking... When you talk about international intelligence and James Bond and "007", you're talking about guys who are really working for the bankers.

VALENTINE

I... Hold on a minute, John. I'll let you go.

But I've heard, Eustace, from a very reliable source (and then I've heard from un-reliable sources; Gunther Russbacher is an unreliable source, but he seconded this motion) that "The Company", the Mossad, MI-5 (or what it is), and the KGB -- all of them are actually in the employ of the banking, of the banking community...

MULLINS

Sure. And they work together! You know, KGB and CIA were supposedly rivals. But, in fact, Kim Philby, of the British secret intelligence service, moved to Moscow and became a lieutenant-general in the KGB!

VALENTINE

Yes. Well he was supposedly one of the most notorious double, or triple, agents in history. But I think it's all... I'm with you: it's all a scam. The bankers run all three or four units.

MULLINS

They certainly do, and they do work together. And that's why, right now, Bill Clinton is over there in the Middle East at the mercy of Mossad. (I don't know if he's got a one-way ticket or not. I'm kind of concerned about...)

VALENTINE

I was concerned about it too, but it doesn't look like it.

MULLINS

Apparently not.

VALENTINE

John. Anything else?

JOHN

...Philby is more honest and more decent than Alger Hiss: he's "come clean".

Is it true, or is it a coincidence, that [the] Standard Oil empire and the influence that they exert have never competed with Russian oil?

MULLINS

Never. No, they've always worked together.

These people at the top level never compete with each other. It's like, you know, Gimbels and Macys in New York: they know what each other's doing, but they don't undercut each other that much. [CN -- Also, I have noted the decline in the past 2 or so years of the price of video cameras: they used to all start at about $1,000; now they all start around $500. I attribute this decline in price to a decline in demand. The point is that with true competition the price would have gone down much sooner.]

JOHN

Great... Great conversation. Have a great day.

VALENTINE

Thanks, John. Good questions. I'll tell ya, that's right.

It is interesting. Now I have said, though, on this air, that these people, in the boardroom (I call 'em "the immaculate 'they'") who run everything in the world today -- the heirs of this legacy that you have written about so well -- will, are just like other humans: they're going to compete, they're going to fight one another, even though they have a tight control. And you would disagree with that.

MULLINS

Oh no. They have terrible battles among themselves. There's a lot of rivalry, a lot of back stabbing. But in the final analysis, it's them against you. They will always hold each other up in order to keep their control over you and me.

VALENTINE

They like to divide the world up: "You get Indo-China and I'll take Japan. You get this, and I'll take Arkansas." That kind of thing, huh?

MULLINS

Oh "Divide and Rule" is the motto of the World Order! How they control people.

VALENTINE

O.K.

Now, it's interesting. The four areas that I've jotted down here, after looking at the titles of your books, in which the people who want to control the world -- I don't have this ambition. I don't know if you do or not. But I really wouldn't want to control the world if you offered it to me!

MULLINS

Most normal, healthy people would not.

VALENTINE

O.K. So. The areas that they've gone after, in order of importance, appear to be (1) money -- federal reserve, control the money, the issue of the money is very important. Right?

MULLINS

Yeah, that's why they set up central banks. The first central bank, in 1694, was the Bank of England. Which... The stock was taken by the royal family of England and the leading dukes of England. And they have run that ever since! You've got 300 years there.

VALENTINE

I heard (and this is one I'll let you comment; you probably know), that when William and Mary went back to England -- that's when the Bank of England was set up -- they were financed by a Holland financier by the name of Suarez(sp?), and he, for his backing, they gave him the right to establish a central bank. And he used a guy, a Scotsman named Patterson, as a front.

MULLINS

Right. William Patterson was a front for the Amsterdam bankers. In fact, they ditched Patterson within a few years after they set up the Bank of England. He was only with it about 6 years and then he was history, he was gone.

VALENTINE

Well that was the purpose of having him in there, was to give it history so they disguised who really owned it!

MULLINS

Oh yeah. But it was the Amsterdam bankers. It was Amsterdam bankers who financed William's invasion of England and taking over the throne of England by force!

VALENTINE

Eustace Mullins, my guest. 1-800-878-8255, the number.

I'm Tom Valentine, this is Radio Free America.

[...break...]

All right. I'm just havin' a lot of fun here today. I just blew a one-minute spot by comin' off 5 seconds early. But we will get it down pat. Someday I'll know how to do this radio business stuff.

Anyway, Eustace Mullins is my guest. [...info on how to get books...] And Murder by Injection is where I'm going next. It's a very interesting book. And because of my interest in health, my favorite of his many good books. [...info on books and upcoming appearances by Eustace Mullins...]

Now. Eustace. You have money and the federal reserve and these guys behind it. And then there's schools, with your new book on the Education for Slavery. Then the law and judges, and I believe that was in The Rape of Justice.

MULLINS

Yeah, The Rape of Justice. Each one is a separate, monopoly study. I became interested in monopolies through the federal reserve system. And I realized that because they now had the power to print money, since 1913, they were printing the money and taking over other areas. So that's why you now have the medical monopoly, the American Medical Association, the medical trust. You have the legal monopoly, which controls the courts of the United States. And when you go into court, you are at their mercy because they can do whatever they wish. [CN -- See, for example, Defrauding America by Rodney Stich.]

VALENTINE

Yep. And you've got the school monopoly.

MULLINS

And the education monopoly! And they found that was the most important one of all, because, by training the children to accept these other monopolies [and] never question authority. [CN -- Also, the media monopoly, e.g. The Media Monopoly by Ben Bagdikian.] Don't forget, the 14th amendment said, "It's illegal to challenge the national debt!"

[...to be continued...]

I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."

Brian Francis Redman bigxc@prairienet.org "The Big C"

Coming to you from Illinois -- "The Land of Skolnick"