("Quid coniuratio est?")
CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE DEATH OF COLONEL JIMMY SABO
Tom Valentine's guest on Radio Free America (Shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on November 14, 1994 was private investigator Gene Wheaton. Mr. Wheaton has been looking into the suspicious death of the late Colonel Jimmy Sabo. Following is my transcription of that interview.
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GENE WHEATON [continues]:
That particular incident that your caller was talking about was a
DC-6 load of 27,000 pounds of marijuana that was vectored in with
the, by the covert operators, getting the, getting the squawk
signals on the radio to land at Homestead Air Force Base, in
Florida. The pilot of that plane was a guy by the name of Michael
Tolliver(sp?). Mike Tolliver later flew a twin-engine plane up
with a load of narcotics and wrecked the plane when he ran out of
fuel just off of one of the islands in the Caribbean. He was put
in prison, but later was called into federal court in Wichita,
Kansas, under Judge Kelley's court, because of the lawsuit
between the owners of the plane and the insurance company's
claiming it was being used for criminal activities. Tolliver
claimed that the plane he wrecked -- not the one at Homestead,
but the one he wrecked in the Caribbean -- was furnished to him
by the U.S. government and he was hauling narcotics into the
United States for them. Now Judge Kelley(sp?) called him up
from prison and put him in front of his court in Kansas, with the
opposition of the U.S. Attorney's office and the Marshalls. And
Tolliver made a sworn statement to the judge, to that effect. The
U.S. government continued to deny any involvement, but a year or
two later, the U.S. government quietly paid for that airplane.
Now that's the typical type of thing that... Laundered drug money is being used for covert operations all over the world, and it is not, I repeat, for national security reasons. It's to keep the covert operators in business and to keep the international weapons business viable. And that's the kind of guys that you're running into.
TOM VALENTINE:
All right. We have another caller, "J.R.", Johnson City,
Illinois. You're on with Gene Wheaton.
J.R.:
O.K. Thanks a lot, Tom. What I wanted to ask Mr. Wheaton was, is,
you know everybody knows what Clinton's up to and his "leftist"
views and everything. And what I'd really like to know is, in the
top echelon of the military, if they try this "national
emergency" or try to bring FEMA in to take over everything (as a
lot of the word is now on talk radio), do you think that there's
enough of the top brass in the military that'll put a squash to
this? I'll hang up and listen for the answer.
Now there's gonna be a... There is a plan, that came out during the Iran-Contra hearings, by Jack Brooks of Texas, that...
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All right, we are back, live. My guest is Gene Wheaton, a veteran police investigator whose credibility is unchallenged, or unchallengeable. And he's one of the real Americans. I love to have him come on this show.
Gene, you were talkin' about Ollie North and FEMA when we had to take that break.
And there is a new Army field manual on civilian affairs/civilian operations that's "floating around" right now calling, outlining this very same program.
Jack Brooks is typical of the Democrats that were defeated, and he himself was defeated in this election. But do you think that there's enough stuff in Jack Brook's head, if he were ever to tell everything he's learned, it would be pretty heavy?
And incidentally, I know it's not the time to go into it, but we've tracked the operations of the 32 missing C-130s through Mena, Arkansas. And the same people are running those that were running these things now. And it's a continuation of Iran-Contra! Everybody thinks Iran-Contra quit with Ollie North and Secord being exposed. But it actually got bigger because the media stopped looking at it at that time.
Essentially, you read the book by Terry Reed, I presume?
[CN -- Regarding the credibility of Reed's book, I have recently heard its credibility questioned as follows: (1) I called a radio program which featured a reporter from the Arkansas-Gazette. In the process of challenging him (he was defending Clinton), I mentioned Reed's book. His retort was along the lines of "I can't really see Reed smoking a joint with Bill Casey." (2) A similar disparagement was heard by me shortly thereafter on a different radio show, where the disparagement went along the lines of "I can't really see Reed smoking a joint with Ollie North."
From the book, Compromised, by Terry Reed & John Cummings [excerpts only]:
The governor's invitation had come as a surprise to Terry. He would be even more surprised by what he was about to see and hear.
"Bobby says you've got a problem about going to Mexico because of the deal with Barry Seal," the glassy-eyed governor began. By this time, the smell of marijuana was unmistakable.
Clinton paused for a moment as if trying to sort out his thoughts. "I can see your concern. I understand Seal was a friend of yours. His death does appear suspicious... Seal got just too damn big for his britches and that scum basically deserved to die, in my opinion..." {CN -- Further note that LaRouche et al. have heaped great praise on Reed and his book. This makes me wonder, how does LaRouche's newspaper New Federalist reconcile this paragraph with their unbridled praise for Reed's book? After all, LaRouche and friends keep defending Clinton -- isn't there a contradiction here in that they both defend Clinton and endorse Reed's book? What does LaRouche say about "...that scum basically deserved to die", a statement attributed to Clinton in a book which has received strong endorsement from the LaRouche organization?}
With that, Clinton got up from his chair and went to the back of the van, returning with a half-smoked joint. He reseated himself. He took a long, deep drag. After holding it in until his cheeks bulged, he then exhaled slowly and deliberately.
He extended his arm and offered the joint to Reed. Terry shook his head and gestured, no thanks.
I have been unable to locate any section in which Reed is smoking marijuana with either Bill Casey or Oliver North. If anyone knows of such a section, please send the relevant page number and/or chapter. In the meantime I will keep searching through Reed's book for the alleged section.]
Gene Wheaton is the guest and, as you heard, there's a lot goin' on out there, and it's not... It's skullduggery. More skullduggery than we care to even contemplate. It's time it gets cleaned up, folks. And Americans like Gene Wheaton are gonna help us.
All right! We'll be back! In the next hour. See you right after the alleged "news".
I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."
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