Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 46

("Quid coniuratio est?")

FROM MISERY TO POVERTY WITH DIGNITY

CN Editor -- While true that in the past I have critiqued a local radio show called "News from Neptune", I also have noted that the show is consistently above average and that I often listen to it.

The following gem has met the high standards of Conspiracy Nation. It is excerpted from the October 15, 1994, "News from Neptune". Co-hosts are Paul "The Truth" Mueth and Carl "Dr. Snarl" Estabrook.

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PAUL MUETH:
The popular movement is really the threat. And Aristide didn't want to run, he was asked to run by the popular movement.

CARL ESTABROOK:
Absolutely right. That's the only way he got in. He would have been neutralized, I think, by U.S. policy had he not turned up at the last minute to run in 1990.

MUETH

Yeah. You were recounting the National Catholic Reporter's article of September 30th, which someone last week brought to my attention to, that recounts the story of the conversation between Aristide and President, ex-President Carter, that is very telling, very telling...

ESTABROOK

It's a remarkable story, Paul, and it points out just what a fraud Carter is. I mean, all this business of Carter as a man of peace going around the world doing good. I mean, this sanctimonious charlatan that was President of the United States and is no better than he should be on these points. I mean, I judge not his personal conscience. That's not the issue. But one simply has to look at what he actually has done, over against the, over against the question of what his PR men have managed.

The most shocking evidence of this, you refer to, and that is a conversation that Carter had with President Aristide during the 1990 presidential election. As you, as you say, Aristide had come in at the last moment, one among almost a dozen candidates, and the U.S. had its candidate all in place: we had an ex-World Bank official who was supposed to become President of Haiti and not bother us very much.

When it looked like, at the last moment, that the popular movement would elect Aristide, Carter went to Aristide -- this is 1990, now -- and said that he, Aristide, really should withdraw, because his candidacy might produce bloodshed.

Now one can take the, gauge the seriousness of that threat as one wishes. But the remarkable thing is that Carter went to Aristide at the last minute, just before he was elected, and said that Aristide "for the highest reasons" should withdraw.

Now here's Carter once again, errand boy for the American elites -- as he has been, once again, recently. There was an amusing element of the recent Carter mission to Haiti, just before Carter went to Haiti to negotiate with General Cedras. It has now emerged [that] he [Carter] apparently had a phone conversation with General Cedras in which he asked the general to come and teach in his, Carter's, Sunday school! i.e., the parallel of his reaction to the two presidents of Haiti, or the two leaders of Haiti, is instructive. In 1990, he says Aristide should withdraw (because he's the head of a popular movement that's going to give him a majority vote out of 11 candidates). In 1994, he asked General Cedras please to come and talk about high-minded issues to his Sunday school.

Now which side is Carter on? The side of the majority of the people? Or the side of the elites and the killers?

I don't think there's any question about that, as there was no question in Iran, as there was no question in Nicaragua. Again and again Carter, this man of peace, this man of religion, turns out in effect to be on the side of the most brutal killers.

He's a fraud.

MUETH

This from the pages of the National Catholic Reporter, not Allan Nairns great writing [CN -- e.g. see "Our Man in FRAPH" by Allan Nairn. The Nation, October 24, 1994] on the connection between the intelligence agencies and the people who are the inheritors of the legacy to the Tonton Macoute, Duvalier's hatchet men, machete men, whatever you want to call them. So it... September 30th, I think. And thanks for the caller last week who brought that to my attention.

I heard something just recently that Aristide has pledged not to run, he's made all sorts of agreements with the IMF [International Monetary Fund]. I don't think he'll be asking to raise the minimum wage for the Haitian worker. He's talking about poverty... "going from misery to poverty with dignity".

And but there is, I did hear an announcement that there is some question about whether he will ask the legislature to give him his full term.

ESTABROOK

The Wall Street Journal this week is promoting Evans Paul, who is sort of a "right wing Aristidian" (if we can speak that way) as the next president of Haiti. So the U.S. already has its candidate, its [unclear] for the next time around.

I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."

Brian Francis Redman bigxc@prairienet.org "The Big C"

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