Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 32

("Quid coniuratio est?")

SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW

Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on Radio Free America (Shortwave, 5.810 mHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on September 2, 1994. Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in that city. Following is my transcription of that interview. Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.

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SKOLNICK [continues]:
Another director of Pender's company was Clint W. Murchison, jr., a close pal of Nixon. And there are some that claim that Murchison was involved in the JFK plot.

VALENTINE

Yeah, I've heard that too. Don't give it a lot of credence, but I've heard it.

SKOLNICK

Yeah, right. Now what's interesting is that Pender reportedly helped install Bua in Chicago as a federal district judge. One of the first things that Bua did as a judge was to cover up the Alan Dorfman case. Alan Dorfman was the wizard of the Teamster's pension fund. And he was murdered just after the BBC interviewed Dorfman about his CIA connections, that is, running CIA money through the Teamster's pension fund. We [CCCC] were the only ones that worked on the story, yet there was a BBC crew here in Chicago. The BBC did not go with [televise/broadcast] the interview. We're the only ones that talk about it.

VALENTINE

That's right, remember? You had that BBC fella come on my show!

SKOLNICK

Yeah, right. O.K. Now, a case involving the estate of Dorfman ended up with Bua. And he covered it up.

VALENTINE

That's his job, obviously! He was put in there by the powerful Reagan bunch and whoever's behind them...

SKOLNICK

O.K. But now, here: this grand jury in another part of the country is reportedly hearing testimony that Bua was the "courier" or "bag man" for reported graft by a major defense contractor to the Reagan White House and the Bush White House. That was the Northrop company.

The head of Northrop, according to previous stories, already had been found guilty of certain misconduct regarding the Defense Department. But here is Bua, apparently involved in some way with Northrop, corrupting the Reagan and Bush White House.

In some way it's tied in with Pender and this overall thing. Now...

VALENTINE

This is not what we normally mean when we say a "Washington insider".

SKOLNICK

Right. Now the one that has just been arrested (and I think he's gonna be brought back to Chicago from Fort Lauderdale) was Joseph Polichemi. P-o-l-i-c-h-e-m-i. And according to authorities in the county down there in Florida, he's got the largest home in the county, assessed -- they got a picture of it in the Tribune -- assessed at $5.2 million. And he apparently funneled some of this pension fund rip-off money out of the country to a Luxembourg bank -- it is so contended in the Tribune. But what they left out of the story is the apparent connection of Polichemi to Bua, to Northrop, to the entire situation, of which the Housing Authority [CHA] pension fund rip-off is only a small part. It is a tremendous, several hundred million dollar scandal, and the $12 million is just, uh the pension fund has been embezzled is a small part...

VALENTINE

Yeah, it's potatoes. O.K. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. You're hearing all this for the first time. I'm Tom Valentine. This is Radio Free America.

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This is Tom Valentine. We are back live. It's Radio Free America. And we're talking with Sherman Skolnick, and he is filling us in now on the goings-on, of the rip-off, of the Chicago Housing Authority pension fund for a "measly" $12 million. But pension funds have been ripped-off for a long time and there's gonna be a real collapse of pension funds shortly! Unfortunately. We've been talking about that for a long time.

SKOLNICK

And so Spotlight has done the most in bringing that out to the public.

VALENTINE

Yes we have.

SKOLNICK

Uh now another group of details that is involved here, which we've been working on for some time, involves the CIA "black budget" [i.e., the part of CIA's budget which is classified] and the use of savings & loan that are in failing condition. One book came out on this by a Houston...

VALENTINE

Peter Brouton(sp?). [CN -- mentioned also in L.J. Davis interview] And it's an outstanding book. Pete was a guest on this show back when he wrote it.

SKOLNICK

The Mafia, The CIA, and George Bush.

VALENTINE

Yep.

SKOLNICK

...found out there's 26 S&Ls, that were actually operated by the CIA, in Colorado and in Texas. He never got around to the Chicago end of it. But we've [CCCC] been working on it and he may use some of our material in an upcoming book.

But there are 3 S&Ls, in Chicago, in the Chicago area, tied in to the CIA black budget -- which is also involved in this overall picture that I've been spelling out! The 3 savings and loans are, Libertyville Savings & Loan (which is a northwest suburb of Chicago), Olympia Savings & Loan, and Clyde Savings & Loan. Olympia Savings & Loan had an unlisted director, Dr. Earl Bryan, who is very much mentioned in the Ins...

VALENTINE

Ho ho ho. That's the man who stole Inslaw!

SKOLNICK

Right!

VALENTINE

Yeah!

SKOLNICK

And unlawfully sold the Inslaw software to foreign intelligence agencies.

Clyde Savings, a director of it has been congressman Henry Hyde. And the Resolution Trust Corporation brought an action against Henry Hyde, claiming multi-million dollar misfeasance. The CIA angle began to be involved, and the judge in the Henry, uh Henry Hyde case ordered all proceedings to be impounded. They brought in a lawyer from the CIA, and the case is proceeding only in chambers. And the docket shows that there has to be a 10-day notice before anything is even considered to be public! But we know a lot about it because, we have, on our TV show, we have publicly charged that Henry Hyde, a purported congressman, is actually the head, the head of the CIA's black budget and has more power than the director of Central Intelligence.

Now I'm sure some of your listeners will immediately come to the conclusion there's something unconstitutional, because a congressman in the legislative branch is not supposed to be doing anything in the executive branch, of which the CIA is a part! And yet he is apparently the head of the CIA black budget -- congressman Henry Hyde. And the case against him in the federal district court here is being bottled up in chambers! It is shown on the docket of the case and we've been investigating that case and we know that they brought in an attorney for the CIA to work this thing.

So you can see why Chicago is so important...

VALENTINE

It is.

SKOLNICK

...the thing, in the CIA's black budget, in the Polichemi case, in the BCCI case. Apparently the CIA is working their black budget tricks through Chicago!

VALENTINE

Well you pointed that out when we went clear back to your very, very sensational show, on this show, and in The Spotlight, when you said that congressman Henry Gonzalez, the idiot of the Whitewater hearings but the genius against the Fed [i.e., Federal Reserve] -- I mean, he demanded information on BCCI and the Banco Lavoro Nacional from Chicago, Illinois, and they wouldn't give it to him!

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I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."

Brian Francis Redman bigxc@prairienet.org "The Big C"

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