("Quid coniuratio est?")
TERRY REED / JOHN CUMMINGS INTERVIEW
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TOM DONAHUE:
Back to George Bush and his sons: What do you know there? What,
what's... Because this book does focus on Bush and Clinton,
let's talk about their knowledge, or their involvement or
complicity, in the drug trade.
TERRY REED:
Well first of all, I'll whet your audience's appetite and use
this as an opportunity to tell you there is another book in the
works. This book [Compromised] became gargantuan, as you
mentioned several times, and we had to finally, you know, lop it
off at some point to get the thing to press.
But to answer that question, one has to study Barry Seal, and know something about intelligence, as it works anyway. And it's not like on TV. And it's not like the James Bond movies. You go to intelligence school to learn how to compromise people, how to blackmail them, how to get dirt on them. It's a very ugly business when you get into the mechanics of how it actually functions.
Seal was a master at that. A photographic memory, literally. I never saw him write a clearance, an aircraft clearance radio frequency, down. A new frequency was stored in his memory as if it was a computer database. And as I worked with him and he basically became my intelligence mentor, to teach me the civilian side, how it functioned, and I was teaching him a few things about manufacturing and, so we were cross-sharing information. But I grew to really admire Seal's ability to stay one step ahead of people that were either trying to control him, neutralize him, or whatever. I think that style, though, is what lead to his death.
He did share with me, on a trip coming back from Panama, he was confiding in me. (This was about 3 months before he was killed.) He was confiding in me that he had the ultimate "neutralizing weapon" -- as he always called blackmail material -- "neutralizing material". He had gained information, originally from the DEA, and then information that he had actually confirmed firsthand, that the Bush kids were "dirty", as he put it. They'd been caught, actually, ensnared, in a trap. And of course the agents involved, once they realized who they had caught, let everybody go.
[...commercial break...]
Tom Donahue, "America's Town Forum". We're speaking with Terry Reed and author John Cummings, the authors of Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA. How the Presidency was co-opted by the CIA. And a picture of "Billy Boy" and "Skull & Bones" are on the front.
Back to the Bush brothers and "King George" himself; let's talk specifically -- their involvement.
But this is Seal talking to me. This is a quote:
"Terry, I've been working with several federal agencies," Seal began. "In the course of that business, a person can't help but run across some very sensitive information. It seems some major players in the Medellin cartel, whom I personally know, ran across some knowledge that's very valuable to both Republicans and the Democratic party. It seems some of the, George Bush's kids, just can't say 'no' to drugs. A guy in Florida, who 'flipped' for the DEA, has got the goods on the Bush boys. Now I heard this earlier from a very reliable source in Columbia. But I just sat on it then, waiting to use it as my 'trump card'. I got names, dates, places, even got some tape recordings. I even got surveillance videos catching the Bush boys red-handed. I consider this stuff my 'insurance policy'. It makes me, and my 'mole' on the inside that's feedin' the stuff to me, invincible."
And that's the end of the quote. Now...
We'll be back. Tom Donahue, with "America's Town Forum".
[End of hour 1]
[...to be continued...]
--------------------------<< Notes >>---------------------------- {1} "The book is available..." No need to use Tom Donahue to get the book. It is available or can be ordered through your local bookseller. However, Donahue does offer audio tapes of past programs. Information I have, current as of July 21, 1994, reads (in part) as follows:
Your tape order has been processed by volunteers...We are sorry about the delay in getting your order filled. [CN -- True, there was delay. Donahue's preoccupation with his trial may have been why.] ...Tapes of past and current shows (with fill-in host Bo Gritz) are still available at $7.00 for both hours [CN -- Full price, including postage]... Allow 2-3 weeks for delivery although we hope to do it faster. For a list of shows available send a self addressed stamped envelope to
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Most of each $7.00 tape goes for Tom's defense fund.
{2} The New Federalist is published weekly. Subscriptions are available at $20 for 50 issues, $35 for 100 issues. Make checks payable to "New Federalist" at New Federalist, PO Box 889, Leesburg, VA 22075. Note: It has good info, but I suggest reading it with "a grain of salt".
{3} In the past I have criticized LaRouche et al. This is not to say that they don't write some good articles. They do put out some excellent information, in my opinion. But be wary of turning your mind over to LaRouche, as some have done. For that matter, I would say to be wary, also, of turning your mind over to just about any "authority": Conspiracy Nation, television, Noam Chomsky, "experts", or you name it. The trick, it seems to me, is to think for yourself.
{4} "...they [New Federalist] took our book and quite interestingly enough..." Yes, I recall reading the New Federalist account of the Reed/Cummings book. By reading their account, you might miss the fact that this took place in Arkansas and that, according to the book, Bill Clinton has much to answer for. If one were to read only the New Federalist account of the book, one might go away with the impression that the book only features George Bush on the cover and not Bill Clinton as well. The New Federalist coverage, amazingly, neglects the Clinton/Arkansas angle. WHY?? Why is LaRouche running interference for Clinton?
I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."
"Justice" = "Just us" = "History is written by the assassins."