Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 64

("Quid coniuratio est?")

[From an interview with Linda Thompson on the For the People radio show, Feb. 11, 1994. Host is Chuck Harder.]



BILL: Well I wish you all the best in that. And if you need some financial support maybe Chuck could set up a fund there.

LINDA THOMPSON: Well that'd be wonderful.

We have several attorneys that have volunteered to bring lawsuits. Right now I'd like to bring a lawsuit challenging the right of John McGaw [current head of ATF] to ban .762 ammo. What gives the ATF the right to ban anything? They're nothin' but a tax collection agency.

HARDER: All right. I thank you, sir, for the call. Lemme get another call in here.

And by the way, when you talk about funds, ladies and gentlemen, this broadcast [Chuck Harder's For the People radio broadcast] is under direct attack by the IRS auditers. And we've now hired a Washington law firm -- as of today -- we've hired a Washington law firm; it's gonna cost a lot of money. So if you wanna support us and keep this broadcast going, your tax-deductible donation is sure appreciated. And if you wanna send some money, we could really use it.

Uh, this is... Again, I think, like you said, the IRS is very often used as a weapon, aren't they?

THOMPSON: Well, that's been seen time and time again. I don't think there's a citizen in America that doesn't know that. Because everyone that calls us [American Justice Federation] says things like, "I'm afraid to call you, 'cause your phone is tapped. They may put my name on a list. They may sic the IRS on me, etc., etc."

And I say to people, "The very things that you're afraid of are the very reasons you should be standing up and doing something about it." We shouldn't have to live like this in this country.

HARDER: I agree.

All right. Wichita... Let me go ahead and conference in another call here. Uh, Wichita [Travis, in Wichita-El Dorado]. Are you there?

TRAVIS: Uh, yeah. This is El Dorado.


TRAVIS: Right by Wichita. Uh, Travis.

HARDER: Yeah. Go ahead, Travis.

TRAVIS: And in fact, Linda, I'm afraid to use my real name to talk to you on the air! Because of what you're talking about is so radical! It just blows my mind!

THOMPSON: There's thousands and thousands of people out there. At this point, they've got plenty of people to chase down already that have called my office, that have written me letters, and so forth, that would keep an army of these guys busy for years.

HARDER: Well they're... Listen. They're busy beatin' us up, Travis. So don't worry.

TRAVIS: But here's what I did today, guys. I heard you last Thursday and it just blew my mind when you talked about the Clinton body count. But I called to a journal and a newspaper out in Mendocina, California, that's got a 15,000 circulation. And both the editors want the story. They want to get involved in the story.

THOMPSON: Terrific!

TRAVIS: And if I could get, you know, if you could fax them the copy of that article...

THOMPSON: No. Make 'em buy it. We need the money.

[Contention for who will speak; all speak at once]

THOMPSON: They can buy it from my organization in Indianapolis.

HARDER: Let's do this. If you'll just have them write to Linda, care of us, we will forward the letter on to her immediately, and go from there. And, of course, we're gonna be publishing the article also.

All right. Let's move along here and get another call in, before, uh... Well let's do a short break, and we'll be right back.

[...commercial break...]

HARDER: [CN -- This paragraph is abridged.] O.K. Let's go back to the phones. And right now we've got Linda Thompson on the line. And if you want to get a copy of "Waco II," you can call 1-800- 888-9999. That's an around-the-clock number. $19.95 and $4.00 shipping and handling.

Uh, O.K. Linda, are you there?


HARDER: O.K. Now, let's... Back to the phones. And we're talking to Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Dan, go ahead.

DAN: Yeah, Linda. I just got a question, uh actually 2 questions: That scene when those BATF agents are on the roof, the one they always show?

THOMPSON: Uh-hmm [understands].

DAN: It struck me peculiar that they're [bullet holes] spaced, like, at equal distances. And I was wondering, could that be from the .762 machine gun fired from the helicopter probably?

THOMPSON: Now what do you mean by the "spacing"?

DAN: Well you can see holes coming out the sides of the siding on the house. And I just thought it was strange that somebody was firing. I thought, from what I remembered, you know, you don't see too much of those clips anymore. It's just that the spacing was like... {1}.

THOMPSON: You can see it if you get our tape. You can watch it as many times as you want.

DAN: Yeah I might, I might buy the tape. And the other thing I wanted to know: did you say anything about the American Civil Liberties Union [ACLU]? And why aren't they jumping in on this?

THOMPSON: Well I haven't yet. They did sort of jump in on it, because they allied with the NRA and they're claiming -- now they're claiming -- they're going in claiming that this has all been a big lie.

But it's a day late and a dollar short and they're... I still believe are actually... [strange phone noise] What's goin' on with the phone?

HARDER: I don't know.

DAN: I think it's my kids playing with the wires.


HARDER: All right. Listen on the radio then.

Go ahead.

THOMPSON: All right. I think that what we're seeing here is more damage control. The ACLU has never, traditionally, never come in on 2nd amendment rights. In fact, they have a posture that the 2nd amendment isn't for the protection of our over-all right to keep and bear arms.

HARDER: Um-hmm [understands].

THOMPSON: So I was very suspicious when I heard that ACLU was in it. And I was even more suspicious when I heard NRA was in it, because NRA is controlled opposition. NRA was "beatin' their chest" about the Brady bill, and ignored the Feinstein amendment. And on the final hours there, they just totally dropped the ball. They're not helpin' us on gun rights. In fact, they're the persons that Handgun Control, Inc. point the finger at and say, "You're the big, bad lobby for the gun owners." And they're the so-called "bad guy" the finger's pointed at and so forth and so on, when, in fact, they're probably the least effective!

We've got, basically, controlled opposition in all corners. And I think this is more of it. We're seein' ACLU and NRA combined, to point the finger at the government. But in the process, they'll claim to do an investigation and the things that they'll release will still be some more of the same things the government has said all along: they lost the element of surprise, and this, and that, and the other -- which are all part and parcel of the cover-up! They're not admissions, they're cover-up. And we're gonna see that again. So I'm just gonna ignore 'em, frankly.

(to be continued)

-----------------------<< Notes >>------------------------------- {1} "It's just that the spacing was like..." The scene on the roof, the one where the agents have climbed in the window, does show three bullet holes appearing that are equidistant. Of course, with 2 bullet holes, this would happen no matter what. However, what are the odds for 3 bullet holes being equidistant: o o o

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