Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 44

("Quid coniuratio est?")

[From an interview with the former marketing director of the Arkansas Development and Finance Authority, and former associate of Bill Clinton, Larry Nichols. This interview took place on the May 5, 1994 "America's Town Forum" radio show, hosted by Tom Donahue. The show is broadcast most weekday evenings at 7 pm (cst) on shortwave frequency 5.810 mHz. (Nichols speaks via telephone with Donahue.)]


TOM DONAHUE: Jeff, in Dallas. Go ahead.

Ask your question, Jeff.

JEFF: Uh, yes. Mr. Nichols. Do you have in your possession the paperwork that shows that the money that came from ADFA did go into Clinton's political campaign? Can you prove that? And if you can, then how come they're not asking you [for it?] And I know they're calling you a liar, and the media's just spinnin' this out of control...

DONAHUE: O.K. Thanks, Jeff.

Do you, do you have documentation for this?

LARRY NICHOLS: As a matter of fact, I do, sir. And that's why I'm striving so hard to get a congressional hearing. Because I don't think the documents need to be put out in the media, and I can explain that.

DONAHUE: Why hasn't Fiske come after your documents?

NICHOLS: Robert Fiske better not come after my documents. Because if he tries to seal them, the next day, when he serves me a subpoena, the next day it'll be all over the media. Everything I have will be out.

DONAHUE: I see. So you'll get... So it's a "win-win." {1}. You'll get the publicity that you've been asking for all along... beyond talk radio.

NICHOLS: Well, I don't want publicity. I want the information out.

DONAHUE: None of this is to benefit your personal career endeavors, but to get this information out so we know the truth. Hopefully....

NICHOLS: Absolutely.

DONAHUE: We'll be right back with Larry Nichols, and your calls. 1-800-298-8255.

[...Commercial break...]

DONAHUE: We're back. Tom Donahue, "America's Town Forum," patriotism in action.

Back to the phones we go for Larry Nichols. Let's start off with Harold, in Flint, Michigan. Go ahead, Harold.

HAROLD: Yeah. Um, Tom. I'd like to ask your guest if [unintelligible] with the gun control bills.

DONAHUE: Say, say again?

HAROLD: I'd like to ask your guest if he thinks we'll be able to beat the sickness in the White House on the gun control issue.

DONAHUE: O.K. Thank you, Harold.

Um, it looks like our Congress is trying to disarm the American people, and they're getting very close, with the numbers today, and you should be calling your congressman to say, "Hell, no." You will not tolerate any diminution of our rights. No infringement, period. Any, any weapon can be an "assault weapon," and any weapon could be a weapon on the battlefield. {2}.

Go ahead, Larry.

NICHOLS: Well, I believe, if y'all know what I know about Bill Clinton and his agenda: One of the things that they have to do is disarm us. The next thing they have to do is "educate" our children, the way they want them educated. And I just pray that Congress -- and I have no reason to believe in 'em any more -- but I just pray that they'll stop this madness. Because when they take our "assault weapons," that's step one. What will they take next? When they get health care through -- and you heard Jay Rockefeller say, "I don't care what the American people want, we're gonna get it anyway." What happens when they get health care? They have access to yours and mine and everybody's medical files.

DONAHUE: Well if they're gonna take away "assault weapons," the weapons in general, then let's take away Bill Clinton's security team. Let's take away Secret Service. Let's take the weapons that protect our congressmen...

NICHOLS: That's right.

DONAHUE: ...Huh. Fat chance.

NICHOLS: You see, if it's O.K. once you take the "assault weapons" away, nothin' will happen to ya, then take 'em away from the security guards.

DONAHUE: That's right. Bill Clinton should volunteer and step up to the plate first. And then we'll believe he's serious about gun control and disarmament.

Let's go to Bob in Golden, Colorado. Go ahead, Bob.

BOB: Hello, Larry.

NICHOLS: How do you do, sir.

BOB: I have heard you on other broadcasts where Danny Casalero's name was mentioned and the Octopus Conspiracy which attempts to describe these upper levels of... You talk about Clinton being on the fifth level down. This Casalero story was talking about maybe the second tier up. Can you speculate or describe the operatives in that story that Casalero was developing at the time he was murdered?

NICHOLS: Whoa! Uh Bob, some of what -- it is "Bob," right? Hello?

DONAHUE: Bob's listening on his radio.

NICHOLS: O.K. I don't know how to say this. There are some people in that network that I obviously know. And I know them through knowing the contras. But as you know, Mr. Casalero's dead. As you know, he was dealing in matters that I do not deal in. Um, I think you will find, when all of this settles -- if it settles and we get a congressional hearing -- a lot of the unanswered questions about all of the tentacles, where they go, where they lead, will start coming into light.

But now let me give you the negative to that. As I've already explained, long before these people at the power positions start getting exposed, they will make the "offer" to Clinton in an attempt to squash it at that level. And likely as not, they may be, they may win at that.

DONAHUE: Larry, the next hour we're gonna talk to you about Terry Reed and John Cummings' book, Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA. We touched on Mena. We need to go back to that and Dan Lasater, CIA drugs-guns connection, and how both Presidents -- the one prior, too, George Bush, and Bill Clinton -- were co- opted.

Larry Nichols has been our guest this hour. He'll be with us next hour on many of these fine stations. Stay tuned. Our talk line number is 1-800-298-8255. Clinton's Circle of Thugs, or "Clinton's Circle of Power," is available. Just write to us at America First. For $20.

(to be continued)

---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- {1} "'s a 'win-win.'" i.e., "Heads, I win. Tails, I win." He wins no matter if Fiske seals his documents or not. {2} Regarding "assault weapons." The ban on such weapons didn't do Nicole Simpson any good. Whoever murdered her used a knife. A gun of some type might have given her a chance to defend herself however.

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