Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 42

("Quid coniuratio est?")

GLOBAL 2000: EARTH FIRST! FOR THE "MASTER RACE"

My transcript of a recent episode of a public access show, originating in Chicago, called "Broadsides". This episode featured independent researcher Sherman Skolnick, and author Mark Sato. Note that in the following I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with some or all of the views expressed.

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SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
But come back to my point. The Second World War, in... to put it in its simplest form, was a form of genocide...

MARK SATO:
That's correct.

SKOLNICK

...directed against the, whatever you wanna call 'em, the "unwanted" of Europe...

SATO

Right.

SKOLNICK

...And, you know, it is now becoming evident, fifty years, you know, after the Second World War, that 6 months before they dropped their genocide bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, 6 months before that, Emperor Hirohito was already negotiating through Switzerland to end the war. And our side didn't want to end the war!

So all this hoopla that they've made in the "history" books that "we dropped the atomic bomb because the Japanese were gonna fight to the death and we were gonna lose a million troops storming their homeland" -- we Americans rejected a genuine effort to end the war...

SATO

Now don't say "we Americans". The elite who were controlling...

SKOLNICK

Yeah, right. That doesn't include the rest of us...

SATO

That's right.

SKOLNICK

...that were alive at the time.

SATO

We had no say...

SKOLNICK

The common people.

Yeah, you're right. But the point is, notice the genocide application: they had the atomic bomb early enough; they could've dropped it on Hitler! On Germany. They didn't do it. See, 'cause that didn't fit their genocide. They dropped it on the people of color -- which would be the Japanese. And you know, you know what...

To this day, they don't talk about Nagasaki. I mean, Hiroshima -- they dropped another bomb on Nagasaki!

I mean, so we now know, fifty years later, it was unnecessary. They could've ended the war. And all this stuff in the "history" books, that that ended the war, is false.

SATO

That is correct.

SKOLNICK

In other words, it was strictly genocide. Why? Because the burgeoning population of the eastern world, the Japanese, was disturbing the ultra-rich of this country in some way. I mean, they were wanting to broaden out their markets, they needed oil, this and that. We strangled 'em, and after we strangled 'em on metal and oil, they rose up and they bombed Pearl Harbor -- which was a natural thing! I mean, you strangle somebody, he's gonna resist, or "croak"!

[CN -- Not to say, by any means, that the Japanese were all angels during WWII. In my view, Skolnick is essentially correct. However another motive for the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was that these politicians and these "scientists" had a new toy that they were dying to try out. Also, Skolnick's view of the so- called "strangling" of Japan by the U.S. is one-sided: Japan was also an imperialist power, in its turn "strangling" other nations.]

And so the "history" books -- they've left some things out. They've left out the genocide angle in all this.

SATO

Right. And so, what your example really points up is that Robert McNamara's insistence that nuclear war is a "good" way to get rid of people is a... we should take that very seriously because he is from the same group of people who would be quite willing to bomb the crap out of everybody on the face of the planet, simply because they need to get rid of some people!

And that's the only reason. That's all the reason they need.

SKOLNICK

Listen. Is the bottom line, is it your view from researching all this, that these devils really and seriously, in the remaining few years of the 20th century, would do this "Global 2000" and want to get rid of "x" number of people?

SATO

Sure.

SKOLNICK

How?

SATO

By nuclear war. By famine. By disease -- AIDS is one of the ways in which they have decided to get rid of a lot of people.

SKOLNICK

Do I gather that they have "written off" Africa as undesireable?

SATO

That's what I just said: AIDS is one of the ways in which they're gonna try and get rid of people. And that... AIDS is a weapon that has been pointed...

SKOLNICK

Most at Africa.

SATO

...most dreadfully, at Africa. Yes.

SKOLNICK

Yeah they talk about these other famines caused by civil wars. But the main thing that's killing off Africa is AIDS. And it's not from green monkeys...

SATO

No, we engineered AIDS in this country.

SKOLNICK

At Fort Meade, or wherever.

SATO

That's right. We engineered AIDS: both HIV-I and HIV-II...

SKOLNICK

In Maryland. That was the mad doctors of...

SATO

...were engineered in this country.

SKOLNICK

...the Central Intelligence Agency, at least I believe, that created AIDS. And I wouldn't say it was a thing that got out of control. It may have been intentional...

SATO

No, it wasn't a thing that got out of control. It was intentionally introduced into Africa, HIV-II, was intentionally introduced into Africa for the purpose of wiping them out! Because, [sarcastically] <<there are "too many" people there.>>

SKOLNICK

O.K. But call...

SATO

And they threaten our "national security" interests.

SKOLNICK

You were the one that did a big research project that we used on an earlier program, maybe a year or more ago, about AIDS, that basically it -- since the homosexuals were considered "not desireable" for the Army, I mean, [sarcastically] <<They're unnecessary. Kill 'em all.>>

SATO

That's right. Well, one more "national security" risk. They were considered a "national security" risk. And therefore...

SKOLNICK

So, in other words...

SATO

...it was allowed to get rid of... HIV-I was introduced...

SKOLNICK

So...

SATO

...into the homosexual community.

SKOLNICK

...AIDS, in its simplest form, is a genocide attack on certain categories...

SATO

There is no question about it.

SKOLNICK

But they allege (if you believe the media at all) that it is targeting heterosexuals in some way or another. So it...

SATO

Well, O.K.

SKOLNICK

...it, the "mad doctor" thing got out of hand.

SATO

No, no, no.

SKOLNICK

...they intended it to "wipe out" the gay community.

SATO

No, no. It didn't -- yes, wipe 'em out. But also...

SKOLNICK

From a national...

SATO

...You see...

SKOLNICK

...security standpoint: "They're not suitable to be in the Army -- get rid of 'em! Kill 'em all!"

SATO

You see, it has gone into the heterosexual population. But how has it gone into the heterosexual population?

One of the other key groups that HIV-I is attacking are intravenous drug users. They were also a target.

SKOLNICK

So there's a contradiction, a dichotomy there. 'Cause there is the CIA and the aristocracy bringing in the dope. Then after they get 'em hooked on dope, you're saying, "Well. Now we're gonna kill 'em!" [laughs]

SATO

There will always be a market for dope.

SKOLNICK

There's a contradiction there!

SATO

No, no. There will always be a market for dope. They're not worried about that, one little bit.

So they'd just as soon kill them off, and...

SKOLNICK

This very bizarre thought occurred to me. I don't know how it's gonna fly, but just let me try to fly it: Hitler, in its simplest form, was more fair on the genocide thing than these guys. He didn't start with the biological thing. I mean, he rounded up the "undesireables", put 'em in concentration camps -- uh, next to I.G. Farben's facilities for artificial gasoline and all that kind of stuff.

SATO

...Rockefeller...

SKOLNICK

Yeah! And worked 'em to death, and killed off those that he didn't work to death.

In some way he was more (what is the word?)... the word "fair" isn't it. He was more "straight in front" [i.e. "up front"].

Now they're saying, "Oh! This strange disease 'showed up' that's killing the people." And we don't have a devil! We can't point the [unclear] and says, "Hey! That's where it's comin' from." You see what I'm saying? In other words, Hitler was a known devil. Where are the known devils? Where is the Euthanasia Society? Where is the Eugenics Society? What's their address? Do ya know it?

SATO

They're in the Chase Manhattan Bank.

SKOLNICK

Well that's the, that's the proper place for them to be! [laughs]

SATO

It's largely, largely funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and other, similar foundations set up by the super-rich.

SKOLNICK

In other words, they're not prepared to come right out in front and say, "Hey. We're against these people. We set off this epidemic bomb, this AIDS thing. We're gonna get rid of all these people. And if ya don't leave, we're gonna ship ya to some godforsaken island in the Pacific and starve ya to death." [laughs]

In other words... I don't mean to laugh or joke, but in other words, the entire thing is, is evil. And what? And they're promoting books and stuff that they're gonna work the population down, or...

SATO

Well, of course. Yeah. There's a lot of different ways that...

SKOLNICK

...line 'em up and machine gun 'em to death.

SATO

There's a lot of different ways that they're subtly killing people, which don't appear to be genocidal. I mean, usually when people think of genocidal things, they usually think of war and...

SKOLNICK

So that the introduction...

SATO

At least purposeful genocide.

[...to be continued...]

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