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SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW -- THE JOLIET CONNECTION

Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on Radio Free America (Shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 20, 1994. Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in that city. Following is my transcription of that interview. Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.

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TOM VALENTINE:
Hello, everybody! Welcome back, to Radio Free America.

In this hour, we are going to reach up to Chicago and bring back an old friend and a fellow who's been a guest on this show several times. He is the founder and director of the Committee to Clean Up the Courts, in Chicago. A non-establishment institution, a citizens' group, if you please, that has a lot of feathers in their war bonnet. They have, they've done some notable things. The most notable probably being the arrest and jailing of the former Governor and a former federal judge of Illinois, who ended up dying in jail, Otto Kerner.

And that fellow, of course, is Sherman Skolnick. And Sherman, welcome back to Radio Free America.

SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Welcome, Tom, and I'm pleased to be on with your listeners again. And I hope they find this very interesting. I've got... We're going to discuss a very timely subject.

VALENTINE
All right. Go ahead. I'm gonna let you cut loose.
SKOLNICK
On October 18th, Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal finally ran a story about things that some of us have known about, the Mena cover-up. That is, the dope and money that was going through the Mena, Arkansas airport and made Arkansas awash with cash.

What the Wall Street Journal is in a position to know is that the dope transit point, which was in western Arkansas, in a forest -- that is, the Mena, Arkansas airport -- has been transferred to just south of Chicago. And due to a series of situations which I will do my best to outline, as briefly summarize as I can, it is operating now, south of Chicago, in Joliet!

They're using similar apparatuses to "wash" the dope money that's coming in: they're using a local development company; they're using various brokers and banks to "wash" the large sums of money.

Now involved in the situation was a building in Joliet where a lot of federal loan money, loan applications, were kept. And it was part of the apparatus of "washing" the dope money.

But before I get into that, let me just tell briefly how it came in. It came in by barge, up the waterway from New Orleans to the Des Plaines River basin, past a place called Moose Island. And we'll get back to that Moose Island connection in a moment.

Also, airplanes came in with the dope (protected from interference by law enforcement people, by the way). Airplanes came into the Joliet Municipal Airport, among others.

Now what happened was, early in the '80s, a secret unit of the U.S. Treasury Department began an investigation of this and related matters. However, their investigation was ordered stopped by one of the espionage agencies, either the CIA or the NSA, on reasons of (quote) "national security" (unquote). Because what was being brought in, in large quantities, flooding in through Joliet and then being distributed across the country, was a superior narcotic called "China White". It comes from the Laos, Burma, Thailand, "Golden Triangle" connection. And the supposed explanation by the espionage agencies was that high-level members of the Chinese secret police are operating in the United States as scientists and technicians, and that the espionage agencies have got to stop the Treasury from interfering and investigating this because, for reasons of national security, they want to keep track of these people -- even though they're bringing in dope!

Now what happened...

VALENTINE
That sounds pretty hokey. You mean the Treasury bought it?
SKOLNICK
Uh, no. No, they continued to investigate, and what happened was, they got into a terrible crunch with these other federal espionage agencies. What happened was, nobody in the media would aid them. So they turned over their entire office of records, an entire truckload, to an independent investigation group.

I became aware of all this; I made a summary of what is in the records. And I went and found, I went and demanded a meeting.

VALENTINE
O.K. Hold on right there, Sherman. We'll be back. You got the... You found out about this and demanded a meeting. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. The dope point of America. I'll be right back. I'm Tom Valentine, Radio Free America.

[...commercial break...]

We are back, live. It's Radio Free America. And I'm talking with Sherman Skolnick. We're talking now about a major investigation in our so-called "war on drugs". Evidently, the "war on drugs" takes time out for official drug dealing and drug money laundering. But if it's unofficial, well then they'll make war on it.

Go ahead, Sherman. You were tellin' us how a group in Chicago came about this truckload of documents.

SKOLNICK
O.K. On October 6th of this year, I demanded a meeting with the highest federal official in this part of the country that I could find. I ended up meeting with Mark Prosperi(sp?), chief of the organized crime/drug enforcement task force, together with the secretary of the U.S. attorney in this district -- that is, the secretary to the chief federal prosecutor here.

I met with them for 35 minutes and I told them that this drug racketeering operation involved 4 federal judges, 2 congressmen, the former Governor, Jim Thompson, and people connected with the Clinton White House. After 35 minutes of summarizing this, he unceremoniously stood up, told me he's not interested, and in so many words told me to mind my own business. And he left me there in the office and walked out the door.

Now what we know from these records is, namely, that one of those that facilitated it was a fellow named Robert Teezak(sp?), who was a crony of George Herbert Walker Bush, the federal judges, Jim Thompson, and others.

And the records that relate to this, of the "washing" of the money, were kept in a building in Joliet called the Private Industry Council. And in 1987, because local citizens from Joliet were complaining to the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Agency, about what they were observing happening, the U.S. attorney here at the time, Anton R. Valukis(sp?) began a supposed grand jury investigation. And issued a subpoena returnable on a certain Monday.

On the Friday preceding that, the building housing all these federal records was burned down! O.K.? It was burned down by Robert Teezak. And I will point out what happened, in a moment, with that.

Now Teezak is a crony of Bush, the former Governor, Anton Valukis, and others. In Chicago, in the early '80s, the U.S. attorney here, the chief federal prosecutor, was Dan K. Webb. He was succeeded by Anton R. Valukis. Both of 'em close cronies of George Bush. In fact Dan Webb (some may remember) was an assistant special prosecutor in the Iran-Contra thing, and took the deposition of Ronald Reagan, and was involved very much in the Admiral Poindexter case.

VALENTINE
Isn't he also now a defense team for Rostenkowski?
SKOLNICK
Yes...
VALENTINE
All right.
SKOLNICK
...the same Dan Webb.

Now he was the private attorney for Robert Teezak. And in the '80s, when Webb was the U.S. attorney, he violated the law by being, reportedly, the private attorney for Teezak at the same time that Webb was the U.S. attorney and should have prosecuted somebody!

Now one of the apparatuses that they used -- to facilitate the arrangement of the dope shipments -- was a company owned by Teezak, headquartered in Joliet and in the Grand Caymans, called International Games, Incorporated. They distributed games, purportedly manufactured in Hong Kong and other places in the Orient. And Teezak, who lived on Moose Island -- uh, keep that name in mind. By the way, the building where the records were kept was called the Moose Building. The Private Industry Council building was the Moose Building, in Joliet.

VALENTINE
Is Moose Island right there in the Illinois River, in downtown Joliet?
SKOLNICK
I don't know about downtown. It's near a suburb called Chanahan(sp?).
VALENTINE
All right.
SKOLNICK
The one that owns Moose Island is Teezak and his business partner, an auto dealer, John Bays(sp?).

Now what happened was, the Treasury unit, by continuing to investigate, caused this grand jury subpoena to be issued by the U.S. attorney. However when the building with the records that they sought... And they were, what was in the building were records that related to federally supported loans -- loans of the SBA [Small Business Administration], HUD, Comprehensive Employment Training Act, and so on -- those records were in that building, and that building was burned down by Teezak.

Now U.S. attorney Valukis, who was a close crony of Teezak and Bush and others, did not investigate the obstruction of justice. And that building was burned down to obstruct the grand jury's subpoena.

Six years went by, and the Treasury unit continued their investigation. Now they [not Treasury unit] needed a fall guy to try to cover the matter up. So in 1993, suddenly, Robert Teezak, the crony of all these people, the congressmen and all that, who -- and by the way: Teezak used to fly his airplane to Hong Kong, supposedly to arrange shipments of the manufacture of his games. You know, the International Games, Incorporated.

TOM VALENTINE:
Um-hmm [understands]. All right. That makes sense.

SKOLNICK
...1993, Teezak suddenly pleads guilty to burning the building down. O.K.? No trial, no formality. And a federal judge here in Chicago covered up the matter, and they sent, without much ceremony and without hardly any mention in the paper, they sent Teezak away to jail without inquiring into the overall matter of "China White" and the building.

Now the apparatus that was used is rather complicated. They used apparatuses, as I said earlier, similar to what was used in Arkansas to wash the dope money. They used local "development" councils. They used bonds that were issued. They used... Here they used three training institutes, supposedly to re-train people for work, but the fraudulent payroll records ('cause they didn't really have all those people working) were in the PIC [Private Industry Council] Building, the...

VALENTINE
...the building that burned down.
SKOLNICK
Right.
VALENTINE
O.K. Hold on. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. We're getting this story -- he put this together out of absolute records from the U.S. Treasury Department investigation. And it's all factual. And once again, we can see our government in action!

I'm Tom Valentine, this is Radio Free America.

[...commercial break...]

We are back, live, and I am just "all ears", listening to Sherman Skolnick of the Committee to Clean Up the Courts, talking about this behavior of the people near Joliet, Illinois -- just south of Chicago. They've got a big state pen there, a very famous prison, in Joliet. And, go ahead, Sherman.

SKOLNICK
The attorney for PIC, the Private Industry Council (it's a misleading name, because they were actually a repository of federal loan records) -- the attorney for that, who we feel covered it up, was Edward Masters, who today is the chief judge of the Will County Circuit Court [CN -- Will County is adjacent to Cook County; Chicago is in Cook County and Joliet is in Will County]. And law enforcement people have told us that he is involved with this "China White" dope rackets. O.K., now...
VALENTINE
That's nice. He's now a judge.
SKOLNICK
Chief judge!
VALENTINE
That's good cover, yeah. Chief judge, O.K.

Whatever happened to Dan Webb, though? Robert Teezak... You said that Dan Webb not only was a U.S. attorney, but he represented somebody privately?

SKOLNICK
Yeah, Teezak!
VALENTINE
Huh!
SKOLNICK
The one that burned the building down.

O.K. Now, according to a headline story, December 5th, 1987, in the [Chicago] Tribune, it says here that the fire (with a picture of the building) was investigated by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, and that they suspected arson. But they didn't proceed on the thing! And six years later, because of all these other things, Teezak, a close buddy of Bush and all these people that are involved in these dope shipments -- he [Teezak] suddenly confesses that he burned it down, and away to jail he goes to cover up the thing.

VALENTINE
Yeah! He's gotta go play golf at one of those country club prisons, and he takes the fall.
SKOLNICK
O.K. Now, as to how the money was "washed": it was a complicated thing, and I will do my best to try to make it simplified.

Some of the money was "washed" disguised as auto loan paper, which went to support a company that has become one of the major credit card and bank operations in the United States. And that's Household International. And their units are Household Bank. And they reportedly were the beneficiary of this dope money that, that is, the proceeds of the dope money -- the dope that was coming in turned into cash, $100 bills...

VALENTINE
Um-hmm [understands].
SKOLNICK
...and ended up, reportedly, with them.
VALENTINE
And if Household [International] comes screaming because you're saying this publicly on the radio, you'll lay the paperwork that the people have received from the Treasury [Department unit] on them.
SKOLNICK
Right. No I've confronted them in court already. I've... This radio program I'm doing with you is the first public program. In a few days, we're gonna do our popular cable TV show; we're gonna do a 1-hour show about this and we're gonna show some of the documents.
VALENTINE
What channel is that on, in Chicago?
SKOLNICK
It's channel 21, cable, in Chicago. Chicago Cable and Prime Cable.
VALENTINE
All right.
SKOLNICK
And on Monday nights we outpoll, by the way, three commercial stations here. Because we have about half-a-million viewers.

But the point of the matter is, we know how the apparatus worked. It worked through Household International. It worked through loaning SBA money, Small Business Administration money -- and the records were in the PIC Building -- to companies that were not creditworthy; that is, they were scams! They quickly thereafter went into bankruptcy. And there was a cover-up through the help of a federal bankruptcy judge from Chicago who was sent twice a month to Joliet to sit in their small federal building to hear these cases. The judge's wife was an assistant U.S. attorney under Webb, in charge of SBA loans. You understand how this was all...

VALENTINE
Yeah! There's a lot of nepotism in this corruption at the top!
SKOLNICK
Now wait a minute. The U.S. bankruptcy trustee for the Joliet district is John E. Gearham. He is a close crony of first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. In January of this year, in the presence of a witness, I obtained the confession of Mr. Gearham. He contends that he is going to be the fall guy in a series of tremendous scandals also involving Madison Guaranty S&L, the...
VALENTINE
All right, hold it there! Sherman Skolnick, my guest. You're on the edge of your seats, as I am. We'll be back. I'm Tom Valentine, this is Radio Free America.

[...commercial break...]

O.K. We are back, live, Sherman Skolnick is my guest. And we're talking about a scam, a drug/money-laundering scam involving officials: local, state, and even federal officials. Go ahead, Sherman.

SKOLNICK
Let me explain to those who may not know. "China White" is the name for a superior narcotic, a high-purity opium, that makes, that is used to make a type of heroin that they can use without a needle. And it is coming to be a desirable by...
VALENTINE
Yeah, you can even snort it! Like cocaine, huh?
SKOLNICK
Exactly. Now, the point is, I was describing, first of all, why the espionage agencies supposedly had a rationale to close down the Treasury [Department unit] investigation: because the traffic was being facilitated by members, high-level members, of the Chinese secret police that are in this country disguised as scientists and lab technicians.

The apparatus that was used, to "wash" the tremendous sums of money, were local development authorities, fake real estate companies, fraudulent auto loan paper... also, three institutes that supposedly were training minority and other persons for other types of work. Also they were disguised as Small Business Administration loans, Housing and Urban Development-supported loans, subsidies from the U.S. Labor Department -- those records were in the PIC Building when it was burned down.

Now as I said, Anton R. Valukis, the U.S. attorney at the time and a close crony of Bush and the people that were involved here, did not proceed to investigate that obstruction of justice; that is, the obstructing of the grand jury subpoena directed against the records in that building! Nor did he make any effort to reconstruct the records through duplicates that were available through the various banks that were "washing" the dope money.

TOM VALENTINE:
O.K. That sounds a lot like that BCCI fire that we talked about once before.

SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yes, that's right. That's about the size of it.

Now as to what was involved here: very substantial citizens from areas south of Chicago contacted the topmost officials of the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Administration, and complained about the strange goings-on past Moose Island. And what they got... And they complained to Anton R. Valukis himself! And what they got in return, instead of any remedy, were serious threats of bodily harm against themselves and their family. These are not dopers or ex-convicts that were complaining, these were fine, upstanding citizens. And they got no remedy. In fact they got threats.

Now we have been, ourselves, investigating the situation for four years. And when we became aware that the Treasury [Department] unit, who were bitter and disgruntled at being, uh, attempts to stop them...

VALENTINE
Yeah, that's called the "stand down". They're told that they have to stand down.
SKOLNICK
Well, their way of "standing down" was to deliver a truckload of their original documents, in their own handwriting, to [an] independent investigating group. We made a summary of those records, and, as I said, we confronted the head of the "task force".

By the way, the head of the "task force" that we confronted on March... On October 6, '94, previously was a White House aide in the Bush administration and a close crony of George Herbert Walker Bush.

Law enforcement people, and others, that are aware of what's involved here, believe that Bush himself is involved. As to who we directly know is involved, it's the former Governor here, Jim Thompson (he was the Governor of Illinois for 14 years), two of his cronies who were the chief federal prosecutors -- Dan K. Webb, from '81 to '85; and from '86 to '90 was Anton R. Valukis. Also, Fred Foreman(sp?), who was the chief federal prosecutor in this district, covered it up. And, as I said, at the meeting October 6th was the secretary to the current chief federal prosecutor, who is Jim Burns(sp?). I mean, we met in this office in the federal building here, and as I said -- after 35 minutes, the chief of the "task force", Mark Prosperi, got up [and] told me he's not interested. I summarized all that I've just summarized for your listeners. I offered witnesses and documentation. He said he's not interested, and in so many words, went out the door telling me I should mind my own business! Well I head up, for more than 30 years, a public interest citizens group. And we have exposed a great deal of corruption -- not from a political standpoint; that is, not to favor one political party over the other, but in the public interest. And we do it on our cable show, and we've done it on your show in the past, as you know, Tom.

VALENTINE
That's right.
SKOLNICK
I should have felt insulted on behalf of the public, that he felt that it was not our business to be stickin', to be goin' into this stuff! This is, this dope traffic that I'm describing -- with "China White" coming in, south of Chicago -- is, for all we know, a bigger operation than what was coming in to the Mena, Arkansas airport. And now, the Wall Street Journal (as I mentioned) belatedly calls it "The Mena Cover-up". (That was October 18th, the big story in the Wall Street Journal.)

I challenge the DEA, or the ATF (that supposedly investigated the burning down of the building), or the U.S. attorney, or the Justice Department, to finally, once and for all, do something.

VALENTINE
All right. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. If you'd like to call in, if you'd like to chime in with something, 1-800-878-8255. We will take your call. You can talk to Sherman.

I'm Tom Valentine. This is Radio Free America.

[...commercial break...]

All right, we are back live on Radio Free America. We're chatting with Sherman Skolnick. He's uncovered an investigation, a long-term investigation, that's been going on up in [the] Chicago area, near Joliet.

And as you've been hearing, we've got John in Syracuse, New York. You're on with Sherman. Come ahead, John.

JOHN
Yes, hi. I used to be stationed, Tom (I never told you this; I've told you some of the places) -- but I used to be stationed in Glenview, Illinois.
VALENTINE
O.K. At the naval air station there. Yeah.
JOHN
...naval air station, which has recently been shut down. It's been sold back to the city of Glenview. Everything's been moved out of that area, and all the airplanes have been transferred out to the east coast. Just as I was retiring, I had moved some of the airplanes out of that area.

But I had a question for your guest that, on all of the stuff that's gone on in this investigation, how has it been that these agencies aren't talking to each other in this investigation?

SKOLNICK
I can give a simplistic answer. Because of the Whitewater affair, there is a horrendous fight between the Treasury and the Justice Department. The Treasury [Department] wants to come out with investigative records showing that the Clinton White House is highly corrupt, going back to the time that Clinton was Governor and covered up the Mena, Arkansas thing. The Justice Department, under Janet Reno, wants to continue the cover-up because of the complications of the strange death of Vincent Foster.
VALENTINE
Now this is the, this is the Treasury Department bureaucrats. Not necessarily Lloyd Bentsen [Secretary of the Treasury].
SKOLNICK
Right.

Bentsen himself was involved in the CIA and the S&L scandal, according to Pete Brewton's book, The Mafia, the CIA, and George Bush.

VALENTINE
Yes.
SKOLNICK
So we've got a Secretary of the Treasury that's far less than an angel. I've never accused him of being honest, let's put it that way.

But the point here is that the Treasury [Department], at least the unit -- tried. And they've gone to substantial risk, to allow their office to be cleaned out; put onto a truck all their notebooks and performance files and delivered into the hands of private citizens that are making this public. I mean...

VALENTINE
This has happened, this has happened to you before, Sherman. Uh, go ahead, John. Is there something else you want to get in on?
JOHN
Well, yeah. There was one more thing.

Sarah McLendon(sp?) the other day, Tom, in a news conference, asked Bill Clinton when Mena, Arkansas went down and there was drugs bein' smuggled in there, why didn't the state of Arkansas, when he was a Governor, hold an investigation of what was goin' on there. He blew it off, he blew off the question, and said to her, back to her, "Oh, the federal boys were in here doin' all this. And I didn't get involved. All I did was some background checks." And he left it at that. But he said that he knew that there was something going on at the Mena airport. You know, Mr. Skolnick, some of this ties together. And I think some of this stuff has to be tied in, before we can ever press forward on it.

SKOLNICK
Sarah McLendon's question to Clinton was not picked up by any of the major press that was at the press conference. The first mention of it was, just briefly, in this story "Mena Cover-up" in the Wall Street Journal, October 18th. But the Washington Post, the New York Times, and all the major papers, pretended that there was no such question put to Clinton -- which was very revealing. Some people feel that Clinton, as Governor, ordered the State Police to look the other way, regarding the dope coming in there.

Now the question is, is it the Clinton White House and the Clinton Justice Department ordering various people to look the other way now that the dope transit point has been switched from the Mena, Arkansas area and is just south of Chicago, in Joliet? I mean, there's a vast cover-up in the works! And as I said, very substantial citizens have complained to the DEA and the Justice Department. And instead of any remedy, they got threats of death and so on!

So there's a vast cover-up in the works. And one of those that was involved in the overall thing was this John E. Gearham who is a close crony -- from Park Ridge (which is a northwest suburb of Chicago) -- a close crony of first lady Hillary. And it is now... His confession, that relates to this, which I took down in the presence of a witness, is now in the federal court record here in Chicago. (None of the newspapers refer to it.) And he said that he is gonna be made a "fall guy" [i.e., offered up as a sacrifice; a scapegoat for others' guilt] for this overall Clinton administration group of scandals. (The only one [newspaper] that went into it big was, by the way, a major German paper in Hamburg, the Hamburg Obleiden(?). I mean, where is the mass media!?)

TOM VALENTINE:
That's a good question.

As you can see, John, this is a bi-partisan corruption.

JOHN
Yes, they're both hooked together, Tom. I agree with you. And I think that's why the media is afraid of it, 'cause it somehow drags Bush into it, along with Clinton.

And Mr. Skolnick, there: I think he's just about ready, if I was to play my cards right, to "go for the jugular" on Clinton before they all get away at the same time, Mr. Skolnick.

VALENTINE
We're tryin'. And I thank you for the call, John.
SKOLNICK
Before we run out of time, Tom, let me just take a moment to tell your listeners how they can keep updated on our...
VALENTINE
Yes! Please do. We've got plenty of time. Take your time, and tell 'em. You have a telephone call-in line that people can listen to the message.
SKOLNICK
Right. It's a regular phone number; it's not an expensive call. You can call late at night, for example, when it's cheaper to do so. 731-1100. And that's Chicago, that's 312 area code. 731-1100, in Chicago. It's a five minute recorded message, and we put our disclosures on that -- usually as a 5-minute summary of our 1- hour television show is usually on that recorded message, which runs 24 hours a day. We change it about 2 or 3 times a week. And your listeners can keep updated on things that they may not be able to read anywhere else. They may read it eventually in Spotlight, but not anywhere else!
VALENTINE
That's right. If you folks want to, you call area code 312-731- 1100. And that's the Committee to Clean Up the Courts hotline. You can get the information; they change it several times a week; and you can call. It's 312-731-1100. I'm Tom Valentine. This is Radio Free America.

[...commercial break...]

All right, we are back, live. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. And you know, Sherman, I think the important message here -- and it's one that you have brought to me several times -- is that there are indeed some good Americans working for the government.

SKOLNICK
Absolutely.
VALENTINE
And they get frustrated, and then they come to people like you. Remember? They came with the Jesse Jackson thing, that nobody would touch?
SKOLNICK
And the only newspaper in the country that would run it was Spotlight.
VALENTINE
That's right. That's one that, one of these days, we'll have to tell everybody all over again, that story.
SKOLNICK
Before the time runs out, let me put in another important detail.
VALENTINE
Sure.
SKOLNICK
According to what is known, part of the "China White" dope money was washed through Household International, which is headquartered in a northwest suburb of Chicago. People may not know, but Household International is purportedly the successor to the CIA-linked Nugan-Hand Bank of Australia. As to what the Nugan-Hand Bank was like, there's a whole book about it called The Crimes of Patriots, by Jonathon Kwitny(sp?). Household International is the successor to that, so they come into the picture naturally, doing what they are apparently doing.
VALENTINE
In other words, they're a CIA proprietary.
SKOLNICK
Well, they took over as a CIA proprietary, let's put it that way. They took over what was left of the Nugan-Hand Bank. And they're operating in Prospect Heights, which is a northwest suburb [of Chicago].

The point is, notice what's involved here: the former President, George Bush; former Illinois Governor, Jim Thompson; two of their closest cronies who were, themselves, each chief federal prosecutors here. The one that's covering it up is a Bush crony, Mark Prosperi, the head of the organized crime/drug enforcement "task force". The one that was involved as the attorney for the PIC, the Private Industry Council where the records were all burned down, is now the chief judge in Joliet. I mean, we've got judges -- state, federal -- congressmen. At the time they sent Teezak to jail, there was no inquiry made into his worldwide money laundry operation that he ran under the name International Games, Incorporated, Joliet and the Grand Caymans. There was no investigation of the obstruction of the grand jury by the burning down of the building! There was no investigation, as known to the highest level of the government, of the secret bank accounts known to the Treasury [Department] unit and the banks involved in Chicago and south of Chicago and west of Chicago that were involved in "washing" the "China White". And I don't know, I mean, was the drug, is the drug flow to be allowed to come in, simply because the CIA wants to keep track of high level members of the Chinese secret police that are supposedly operating in the United States and in charge...

VALENTINE
Well I don't understand why the CIA's all uptight about that. Congress is gonna bring a whole bunch of 'em over from Hong Kong under the new "crime bill". So why's the CIA care!? [CN -- Valentine has erred here in not differentiating between the Chinese from the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the Hong Kong Chinese. There is a difference between secret agents from PRC and police imported from Hong Kong.]
SKOLNICK
What happened, in 1986 Jim Thompson went to China with all of these same characters -- Teezak and his friends, Edward Masters, who later became the chief judge, and so on. And it was at that point that the "China White" situation was apparently nailed down! And they disguised it as if a major soybean processing plant was gonna be built in the Joliet area for the mainland China. I mean, that was the disguise for Thompson at state tax expense, going to China. But apparently, according to what the Treasury [Department] unit contends, that was the time that they really nailed down the importing of "China White" into this country -- which has been such a great scourge! In fact, there's a new book coming out, by Peter Maas(sp?)...
VALENTINE
Yep. The [unclear]...
SKOLNICK
..."China White"!
VALENTINE
Yep!
SKOLNICK
So that, I mean, they can't say that the top level of the government doesn't know! I've done my part to confront the top level of the government. Other substantial citizens have confronted the top officials of the DEA. And the thing continues, just as we talk! It hasn't stopped!
VALENTINE
Well, we're gonna keep on talkin' about it. And we've got corruption in high places. Sherman Skolnick, out of Chicago. That telephone number to keep up with his work, 312-731-1100.

Sherman, thanks very much. We'll be seeing you again. Excellent report.

All right folks, stay tuned. We've got another thing breakin' in Indiana. We're gonna be covering that, shortly. I'll see ya right after the news.

Brian Francis Redman bigxc@prairienet.org "The Big C"

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